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For what it's worth, a quick glance around suggests that if you're anywhere near canada, you might have better luck taking a trip 'cross the border to poke around. Looks like there's a few restaurants that serve horse up there. Some south of the border, too, apparently.

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Regardless of whether people actually do that stuff or not, the point is that there are ways for people to hide their digital trails if they wished to, even if it's not for some nefarious reason.

Also, I'm not sure whether they're planning on doing it for ALL arrivals, which would be hell on tourism, or do it with specific individuals.
Well, like most things cored by bigotry, ignorance, and fear, it will be done sporadically and largely capriciously, based more on the prejudices of the individuals on the ground or their superiors than anything. Don't expect too much in the way of consistency, particularly of any sort except the most shallow.

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Also, wouldn't giving your password to the US government be in breach of Facebook / Twitter EULA, as in, don't give your password to third parties? So anyone getting a visum for the US can expect a permaban haha lol.
It's an EULA breach, yes. I want to say even with an explicitly issued warrant -- law can compel physical access to a device but personal information such as passwords is a hell of a lot sketchier on the legal mandate front. Iirc that's one of the things that have been brought up in court to get employers asking for that stuff to knock it the hell off. Pretty sure it's not a criminal breach, but forcing visitors to give social media passwords is basically forcing them to commit civil law violations, specifically of the contract sort. I'd be hella' surprised if that's not a lawsuit waiting for someone pissed off and wealthy enough to handle the court fees.

Though for what it's worth, it's not really all privacy protection laws. The 1974 one's still in full effect, even for non-citizens et al. The practical impact of that kinda' remains to be seen. It'd be some kind of morbid hilarity if fuckups related to that cost the US more in court fees than what we're spending to ramp up visitor harassment.

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Eh... there actually is argument against 'em for raising for food (which is actually kinda' what's needed to make dog, at the least, particularly palatable, from what I understand), for what it's worth. Carnivores just don't make particularly good livestock by sheer dint of biology. Much better off energy conversion wise with something that can be (healthily) fed primarily with plants. Stuff that just eats more or less anything is pretty decent, too. Part of the reason pork and chicken tend to hover around the less expensive side of meat products, that.

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Curious, how much of the current state of the Republican party can be blamed on Reagan?  If I recall correctly, he did have a heavier focus on religion, American exceptionalism, and the military than prior Republicans...
Good chunk, but far from all. He certainly didn't help much on that front.

On the other hand I'm pretty sure the current state of the GOP would have had reagan recoiling fairly strongly. Shit's been slipping away from the reaganites for a while now, heh.

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Other Games / Re: Pocket games thread
« on: February 12, 2017, 10:08:43 am »
Eh, the kemco ones aren't that bad, usually. Tend to have virtual d-pads and whatnot that work fine, since they're almost always mostly-grid based and thus precision isn't very necessary. They usually do alright with the tap based interface, too, really... I usually end up using both for different in-game situations, heh. Shadowrun stuff should be fine, too -- it's your basic SRPG in terms of interface, more or less, and that's pretty painless on a tablet.

That said, ARPGs on tablets -- like evoland, yes -- are generally complete goddamn misery. If it's not turn based, don't bother. Evoland, KoTOR, and that Souls thing probably might as well not be in the bundle, tbh. Might be able to manage something if you play it on bluestacks or whatev', but that... probably defeats a good chunk of the point, ehehe.

E: Jeez, that adventure bar thing. Other restaurant, top floor. "It doesn't taste good... Mother's cooking is way better!" "That's too bad... you won't be able to eat your mother's cooking anymore since she just left us." That's about what I mean when I talk about kemco-published games' writing.

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Other Games / Re: Pocket games thread
« on: February 12, 2017, 09:40:57 am »
*waggles hand* Both it and symphony are kemco games. That... basically means they're probably solid-ish, the writing may be surprisingly good in quite-possibly-unintended-ways, but they're almost certainly not going to be terribly impressive. Kemco produces a lot of RPGs on the good/playable side of mediocre, more or less. Usually doesn't have much that's exactly bad about any particular game they make, and there's quite often one or two fairly neat mechanics per game, but in general they're just... not exactly amazing.

Guess what I'm saying is you can't really go wrong, exactly, with a kemco game, usually. They're just not something you might want to hinge your purchase decision on. that said, now that you've mentioned it, I'm probably going to grab the mid tier* mostly just to get the kemco games. I like their games, to a fair extent, they're just very much not really good from any sort of objective/relative standpoint

*And yes, I can see that KotOR and dragonfall's both for just about a quarter more than the current mid tier minimum. I'm not sure I care enough about either to spend the extra ~25 cent :V

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I'm on vista so it's entirely possible it's changed, but it... should be pretty trivial to schedule a task that shuts down the computer at a certain time, too? Does win 10 no longer have the task scheduler or somethin'? Would be in admin tools unless MS hid it for whatever reason, if it's still there. Wouldn't make it impossible to log on, per se, but it should kick you out easily enough and you could always set up a few dozen if you think just once isn't enough, or pair it with that login bit mentioned so you can't get back on.

Though yeah, actually checking it does look like it would need some kind of shut down script/program to work with that. Still, you would probably be able to use something a lot simpler/less likely to cause problems if you offloaded the time check and whatnot to windows' own thing.

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It's the marvel verse, yeah. Would that really be much of a reassurance?

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Again, as both Lord Shonus and I have said, we're past the point culturally where an attack on U.S. soil could provide the popular support for extreme action, and likely won't be back to that state for decades to come.
Annnddd again, the GOP -- which has majority or near to it control of a good chunk of our government, and particularly strong support from our military -- has seen a non-negligible support for what anyone sane would call extreme action; i.e. more or less indiscriminate bombing, significant military belligerence, and so on. Like I've kinda' been saying, I'm not really concerned about a ground invasion. That's not terribly likely. Trump getting pissed off and ordering bombing runs or artillery strikes on a civilian target, just because whatever pissed him off is in, near, or was mistaken to be one of the two, to said target, that, is something that's a hell of a lot closer to likely than I'd like. It's shit that doesn't even need an attack on US soil to happen, really.

Put it a different way, I'm pretty damn sure what I consider extreme action, and what the GOP and its support base considers extreme action, are two very different things, and I'm not terribly sure that what checks we have in place are currently positioned in such a way to keep that difference from manifesting. I'd like to think a particularly fucked up order would be refused by the military. There's been quite a lot in the last few decades (at the least) that makes a refusal of that sort a hell of a lot less certain than I'm comfortable with.

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And even beyond that, there's a very wide gap between limited conventional warfare in a third-world shithole and first-striking with NBC weapons. The cultural taboo is fucking massive there. If there's one thing that would unify the post-Cold War world against a particular state, that would be it.
... which is why I have repeatedly stated that I'm not particularly talking about NBC weapons, yes. It doesn't take a bloody nuke to put several hundred or thousand people in the dirt. The actually plausible problem -- as we've actually already half-way been seeing -- is that "limited" conventional warfare becoming notably less limited and less focused, particularly in regards to exactly who and how many gets killed in the process.

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See, there's the thing. I can see Trump ordering a nuclear strike, but I can't see the U.S. military carrying it out under anything resembling these circumstances. Coinflip between someone shooting him and immediate movement towards impeachment if he tries to nuke a country on impulse or in response to a stateless terrorist attack.
Hell, I'd like to think that would happen, too. Thing is, we've got at least two wars in my lifetime that makes that a proposition more questionable than I'm comfortable with. You'd hope our military would immediately turn against blatantly unfounded and/or immoral and/or counterproductive orders, but experience says that's a shakier hope than you'd think. It's not difficult at all to see trump ordering airstrikes or offshore shelling or whathaveyou that involve a great deal of collateral damage* (assuming they're even targeting the intended thing to begin with) and our military going through with it.

And... again. It doesn't have to be nuclear. Nukes are big and flashy, but we got all sorts of shit that can do near as much damage, or close enough to near as much it only matters so much from the perspective of whoever we drop the hammer on. The thing with trump and nukes is that the apparently willingness to use them, even if he wouldn't or he'd be stopped, says a lot about how readily relatively lesser options are on the proverbial table.

*Which is the sanitized terminology for willfully not giving two shits about how many civilians get slaughtered in the process, just to make sure that's clear.

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What would be a good motivation for Ultron? I'm struggling to think of something that would be genuinely tempting to a AI in the marvel universe. No, you can't say the mind stone.
I mean... which version of ultron? The oedipus complex one that was apparently the original would have plenty in the marvel universe to tempt someone, ferex. Wasp clones and who knows what else. Could always have someone else mindjack the bot, too.

Though part of the problem vis a vis motivation is that, checking a bit, at least a good chunk of ultron's showings has the AI as more or less insane. You don't really need a good motivation for that sort of character setup, exactly. Something rather off might even be more appropriate. Sky's kinda' the limit, and probably depends most on what sort of use the particular writer is intending to put ultron to.

Basically, thought I'd have is, instead of looking for its motivation, figure out what role it is to play, and then find a motivation that fits that role. Turn things around, more or less.

Yo, where my German speakers at?! Is "Scheißziegel" an actual word? Can I use it and make sense?
You could probably use it in english and make some degree of sense. Brick shitting is a turn of phrase that exists.

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Though again, there's plenty of its general intent that's available without going full nuclear. We still have conventional bombs perfectly capable of leveling civilian targets, and I seem to recall that our navel artillery isn't (or at least wouldn't be) too bad at it, either. There's plenty of blindly flailing atrocity our country could unleash without having radioactive fallout get involved. We'd just need someone with sufficient capability to order it and sufficient lack of foresight, character, and restraint to do so, and enough of the military immoral enough to go through with it, possibly even in the face of congressional and/or judicial opposition.

I'd like to think the bits of our military that actually have operational control over that sort of thing have the moral character and spine to not go through with it even under POTUS order, but...

On the other hand, there's part of me that wonders if the president's actual head on a literal pike given to the attacked countries would be sufficient reparation to offset the foreign relations hit involved. Probably on top of some degree of material recompense, of course. What's the wergild involved with carpet bombing a city these days, anyway?

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Gods above and below help him (only rhetorically, not literally please, ye nonexistent deities) if he tries to address such a situation by invading some country, because almost nobody in the U.S. wants another war.
'Course, the worry isn't us invading someone, exactly. It's that someone of trump's character, who has openly asked (to paraphrase gods, I hope I'm paraphrasing and not actually remembering the wording) "Why not nukes?", and has a political support base that has spoken with favorable-ish response of glassing deserts and carpet bombing cities, would do something significantly more immediate than calling for troops on the ground. And given the GOP's track record so far as appropriate target acquisition goes, well...

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Eh, was mostly just making the point that you can't really count what was got during the POTUS election. Amendment has a different selection method, et al. Makeup's different enough it would at least probably be a pretty different spread, if not actually make a difference in an amendment passing.

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