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Oh aye, I know. Just couldn't get in on the second for the same price, and on a slim enough budget I can't really justify even the little bit extra.

Huh. Yeah, I guess there's a lot of bad behavior being encouraged, on both sides. If people are self-educating on How To Relationship based on VNs and stuff... probs a good idea to not do that.

Think it was well noted more than once by a few folks around here that by and large media (games, movies, books, whatever, all of it) romance in general basically translates in real life to borderline or outright psychopathy, or things of similar states of extremis. End up in jail level stuff, often enough. If you're patterning your relationship off of anything made for entertainment (or gods forbid some kind of high literature thing; the vast majority of the great works that involve the subject are worse on that front than the average bodice ripper, and those are not good on that front.) things are probably going to go wrong somewhere. Moreso than is inevitable, anyway.

Really, it partially explains why so many relationships are dysfunctional to one extent or another. There are vanishingly few good examples in human culture, and even many of the better ones are pretty sketchy. Happy and/or realistically functional relationships just don't seem to make good stories, or at least content creators don't think they do or can't manage the making.

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... well shit. Started back up and the 15 one's already out entirely. That's... frustrating. Backed the other one for the lowest that came with game, now I can't for this'un. Can't really justify that extra few bucks, either, since I probably shouldn't have backed the first kickstart to begin with disposable funds wise, heh. Guess I'll be waiting a long while for a sale

You fellas seem rather set on pushing the fearmongering agenda. As such I have recognized your claims and asked a friend who is studying law in the US and has almost graduated. The "not withstanding other law" does indeed work the way I claimed. The humongous amount of anti-discrimination laws will still be in effect. Also here's the important part he told me.

And here's the part he apparently didn't, you've been told already in this very thread and seem to be pointedly ignoring, and is exactly what LGBT et al folks are worried about.

Anti-discrimination laws on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity do not exist in many parts of the United States of America. They are not federal protected classes. They do not allow someone to challenge a firing or hiring rejection on the basis of discrimination against those characteristics They do not put in place repercussions for businesses, non-profits, state and local government, and on, and on, and on, that choose to discriminate on the basis of LGBT alignment. Anti-discrimination laws apply to protected classes, and only protected classes.

This is not bloody fearmongering. This is shit we've been seeing for the last while. Specifically one of the latest tracks anti-LGBT groups are trying to leverage to do their thing. It's stuff that's letting religiously inclined religious organizations (or even just jackasses willing to claim they are) try to deny vital or near vital services (access to birth control, ferex) and still claim federal funding and other sorts of special treatment. It is, in fact, trying to give free reign to religious organizations or people otherwise interested in claiming religious grounds for their discrimination against certain portions of the population to be able to do so and face no federal funding repercussions. The intent of that law is to allow organizations to break their contracts with the federal government and still be able to legally challenge the fed if they decide to end, alter, or even enforce said contracts in response.

And it's not just LGBT, though they're just about the most overt worry. We already had a kerfluffle just a few years back where religiously backed healthcare related organizations were trying to avoid giving reproductive health care (specifically birth control, iirc) in direct contravention to agreements they had previously entered, and still claim the benefits of said agreements. That is what this bill is trying to allow. That is what should not be allowed. They want to make an agreement under the acknowledgement they're going to discriminate on the grounds in question, fine. They've got the right to try, mostly. But they don't deserve exemptions if they didn't, and they don't deserve grounds to challenge if they're refused because of it.

Also, yeah, you will be randomly fired if your boss doesn't like you. It's called at-will employment, it's common in the US, and just about the only way to challenge it is under discrimination laws, which only apply to protected classes (which, again. LGBT aren't on a federal level, and aren't in more than one state). All this bill is trying to do on that front is remove the power of the federal government to strip funding from (and/or deny) individuals that do so while claiming religious grounds, if they're not targeting someone specifically under a protected class even if said funding is contingent on not targeting anyone. Which, hey. Is bullshit. Utter. These organizations want to discriminate like that, they can set up an agreement allowing for it beforehand rather than lying about what they're going to do and then trying to force the feds to still pay them. They can also shut the hell up if the feds decide their bigoted ass isn't in the interests of the state and won't be getting federal support.

Hmmm, I don't know shit about finances, what does: https://ycharts.com/companies/CMCSA/enterprise_value and https://ycharts.com/companies/DIS/enterprise_value mean?

... like. What part of it? What the EV (which that data seems to be directed at) is is described near the bottom* and... seems fairly straightforward?

Also, uh. How's this relevant to US politics?

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It is a sum of claims of all preferred shareholders, debt holders, security holders, common equity holders, and minority shareholders - unlike market cap, which only captures the total value of common equity securities.

Bit more down there, but that's the EV itself.

Stattitstics is serious business, apparently. No relation to the ornithology specialization.

... well, if you were actually trying to use the term as a body part euphemism instead of actual produce, you'd... still be mistaken, actually. Melon's probably most commonly used in that field as a stand in for breasts. So most organisms would have either zero or two or more, more still if you're counting some of the other uses, too.

According to New York Daily News and Bloomberg, Trump is negotiating a settlement in the Trump University case of 20-25 million dollars, to avoid lawsuit and also avoid being investigated for fraud, in a case made against him by New York prosecutor Eric Sneiderman.

That's a lot of money to pay for something he says he's not guilty of.

For what little it's worth, it's not unknown for companies to settle just to be able to stop directing effort and resources towards the legal work and whatever PR is considered appropriate for the situation. It can be such a situation where the defendant isn't guilty, but deems going through the process more costly than just settling in exchange for no guilt being assigned and the lawsuit being dropped.

... now, do I think that's what's going on here, if the reports of the settlement negotiations are accurate? Ha. No, not so much. Still, there are reasons to settle besides being guilty and trying to buy your way out of it.