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Messages - Frumple

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Yeah... some folks just kinda' never turn the TV off. Some of those default to fox, and so...

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General Discussion / Re: bacon- microwave or oven?
« on: November 18, 2016, 10:10:10 am »
Sure? It's a'ight. You... coat it in something first. Flour or whatev', normal deep frying stuff. Been long enough I can't really recall what it tastes like, though.

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OH MY GOD IT'S STILL PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND
Now imagine it playing in the background pretty much non-stop. More or less the entire day. Sometimes literally the entire day, with people leaving it on while they sleep. Something approaching that isn't terribly uncommon among conservative households.

And from what you mentioned it sounds like you tuned in for one of the less out there bits. It gets worse :V

and then realize that talk radio can go an order or two of magnitude beyond fox's average worst
welcome to entertainment news, american right-wing edition

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There's no need to breed that, though. Just about everyone that's going to do something like that already is. Been doing it for generations.

But no, not so much entitlement. Closer to stuff like safety regulations, saying, "You want to do business in this country, there's stuff you don't do." Not really coming from the consumer's end. Buncha' reasons for it but the exact ones don't really matter that much.

... though vote with your wallet or take your money elsewhere isn't actually always an option. Sometimes that guy's the only one available to serve, and it's pretty well known along our history where that's locking down one service or another that's pretty vital for the area in question. S'a part of why discrimination laws came to be, though only a part.

And cript snarkninja'd me but a'ight. Not going through the effort of typing that on a tablet and not posting it after.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 18, 2016, 12:14:10 am »
Something you have but don't use for two hundred.

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General Discussion / Re: Guilty Pleasures. No, not those kinds you perv.
« on: November 17, 2016, 11:53:58 pm »
Unrelated note, Frumple, does this classify as "noise music"?

For its day I suppose.
Oddly enough, not really. Probably anyway. The first real go at noise music is actually pretty old, though I forget the exact details of the monster instrument that was made to do it. Now that I check the earliest looks to be 1910s. Intonarumori, russolo. Would have been roughly contemporary to ornstein, actually.

Anyway, that's maybe a sort of precursor thing, but I'd probably put it in with some of the more experimental piano stuff that was somewhat popular... well, a while ago. Decade or five, forget the details. After jazz, in any case. Or before. One of the two, ahaha!

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General Discussion / Re: Guilty Pleasures. No, not those kinds you perv.
« on: November 17, 2016, 10:53:56 pm »
Does listening to classical music count as a guilty pleasure, or does that just make me a pretentious snob?

Of course, I say this listening to Rachmaninov's Symphony No. 2. Specifically a non-truncated version that also plays the loop in the first movement.
Depends a lot on the circles you run in. Bit on how generally exposed to the stuff the area is, too. But it can be the former. Less so the latter unless you are a pretentious snob about it. Folks generally seem to be fairly okay with someone that just likes a nice bit of classical, though, at least if the setting's right and they're not particularly exclusive about it.

... and not many people can rag too hard on stuff like the 1812. One of the most metal songs in existence, that -- not many bits of music out there can lay claim to using straight up artillery as a musical instrument. You know a performance just got real when the entirely literal cannons get rolled out.

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General Discussion / Re: Guilty Pleasures. No, not those kinds you perv.
« on: November 17, 2016, 10:13:16 pm »
... not in my case. I just like the way it sounds. Relaxing, kinda' like ocean waves on a beach. Just. By way of mass murder of industrial equipment. Slaughter of the machines. Along those lines. It's nice.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 17, 2016, 09:58:07 pm »
But...I don't think they're doing that?
I... think they were? Fairly explicitly, actually. Current thread of discussion started with talking about not being aware of a possible latent bisexuality, that appeared to be at least partially caused by a previous conviction of asexuality. That'd be an example of an unknown known (the bisexuality, which the hormones et al were apparently pretty aware of) being suppressed by a self-categorization (the asexuality). It seems to be sliding towards a known known, but that previous categorization quite likely got in the way of it, slowed it down or delayed the realization, possibly by quite a bit.

And it's basically something we know but don't know we know, mech. A fairly mundane example would be an organization having a particular bit of data on someone tucked away in a cabinet somewhere, without anything else pointing to its existence. The organization has the information, they just don't know they have it. Another would be just stuff like test taking -- being unable to recall something, possibly even that you studied it at all, but then going a series of problems before being able to recall it again; the information didn't take a jaunt out into the aether during the interim, but you weren't aware of what it was. Biology, it probably comes up the most with sensory stuff, being subconsciously aware of this or that without being consciously aware. Unidentified gender identity mismatch is another fairly common expression -- the body/brain knows the problem, but it's not recognized. Stuff like that. Things you're aware of, but have no actual cognizance that you are.

Least if I'm remember everything correctly. I don't even recall where I last ran into something approach a formal treatment of the heuristic, so it's very possible I'm not.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 17, 2016, 09:27:32 pm »
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Why is it bad?

Also sincerely curious.
Eh? MSH actually already answered that. Subconscious suppression of inner dissension and unknown knowns. Basically when you box yourself you start thinking the box is real and ignoring all those parts that didn't actually fit, often unintentionally.

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General Discussion / Re: bacon- microwave or oven?
« on: November 17, 2016, 08:58:22 pm »
Pretty sure you just need to search through the food thread a bit, heh.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 17, 2016, 08:56:36 pm »
There is not nearly enough oil involved in this scenario for us to be greek.

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It... it's been a long time since I've listened to merzbow. Noise music in general, for more than a few minutes. ~Twenty in right now. It's still nice ;_;

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 17, 2016, 08:38:54 pm »
... that may be the worst reason to turn abstinent I've seen since the invention of a straight razor.

Well. One of. Top... top thousand. Let's call it somewhere in the top thousand.

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General Discussion / Re: Guilty Pleasures. No, not those kinds you perv.
« on: November 17, 2016, 08:34:41 pm »
Ach, how mean. Hardstyle isn't noise music* at all. I've been tricked :-\

*Warning: Actual noise music.
E: Secondary warning: That no-joke deserves a warning. Probably keep the volume low-ish if you do follow the link.

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