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Messages - Frumple

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... mate, I wasn't saying anything about rooftop gardens. I was talking going out, kicking some farmers off their land/throwing the ones that wouldn't play ball in jail (or just using arable stuff the cities already had sufficient influence over), and then shifting enough population out to do it without them.

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Oddly enough, a lot of nice shit comes from the cities and otherwise non-rural areas. Also the countryside is boring as goddamn, and not really setup to make a lot of neat junk. Maybe farmers could strike or something or try to exert power via threatening food supplies, but then they got barely anything to make their lives pleasant and a majority of the country's population is pissed off at them and considerably more capable of fielding more direct repercussions.

That's not even getting into the flat fact that if it really came to it, cityfolk could just break off some people, build up the necessary machinery, and replace them. We don't need even remotely as many farmers as we used to to maintain the agriculture output we do.

Or all the other stuff. Long story short, though, is that there's not nearly enough farmers nor do they have even remotely sufficient capability to defend themselves from repercussions of trying to really screw people in more developed areas for it to really be an option. And even beyond that many of them aren't quite fucked in the head enough to think trying to starve their countrymen and distant family is a good idea. All sorts of other stuff, really. Agrarian revolution was a pipe dream several generations ago, when it comes right down to it.

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Yeah, they... did better than they usually did this year, iirc. Still functionally nonexistent, but more of the country went 3rd party than usual! At least so far as the popular vote went. Can't recall them making much in the way of gains anywhere else, ha.

Who knows, another few elections and they might just end up politically relevant rather than a somewhat convenient pseudo-scapegoat and not much else.

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From labor day, smj, not up to. Tracks from september 5th till november 7th.

And yeah, last I checked it was over a million, with the continued potential to further widen a bit, I think. Though checking it does look like it might be a bit under, now. It's kinda' hard to tell because all these bastards are continuing the voting day behavior of not bloody agreeing with each other aarrrgh

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Something related to that, actually. Only tracks back to labor day, and doesn't include surrogate appearances, but still. Interesting bit of info.

Turns out a fair chunk of the places where trump flipped obama voters did get some degree or another of attention from clinton. Less than trump, at times, but it wasn't just a matter of just not showing up at all.

Be neat if anyone can track down similar sorts of things, just for further back or other parts of the campaign. Not even sure where you'd start looking to collate that information, though... news, maybe, but that would be a hell of a PitA to do.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« on: November 16, 2016, 08:16:36 am »
Well, if it helps any, you at least gave the right advice. Communication keeps ships afloat, the lack sinks them.

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For what it's worth MSH, if it was intended as a reference it was probably aimed at reagan. Specific construction of words got coined back in the 80s, used by reagan, then... bill in '92. What.

I... hadn't cared enough about the phrase to check. And didn't remember. I'm not sure what exactly my reaction should be to the fact that apparently parts of GOP spent this election emblazoned with a clinton campaign slogan. Even if it was a reagan one, too.

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... well, yes, which is why early, mail-in, and absentee voting is a thing. In most states, anyway. There's a lot of decent reasons for folks to not be able to vote, but not being able to get off work on election day generally isn't exactly sufficient by itself. Pretty sure there's either a federal or pervasive state law mandating businesses give their workers at least a couple hours off to vote, too, for all m'totally aware how much of an actual (non)option that is in a lot of cases.

Not to say we couldn't do a hell of a lot more to make things easier on folks, but there's usually at least something of an attempt by states to give people an alternative. If the voter actually cares enough to use them, anyway.

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Probably the voting turnout,SL :P

Other news, this is kinda' an interesting bit of yammering. Series of tweets giving an opinion on the economic woes thread of commentary we've been seeing, among other things. How well researched et al it actually is I don't really know, and it's both too late and I don't really care enough to rummage through it anyway, but it's an outlook I haven't personally seen much, and at least appears better supported than many, on the face of it. Figured someone might be interested and willing to read through a tweet storm.

And sorta' neutered neo, but sorta' not, too -- especially in the case of a divided GOP and a lack of filibuster breaking majority (again assuming the GOP isn't going to commit long term suicide and abolish it), their house and congress members have a fair amount of kingmaker style leverage. State level stuff's a lot messier on that front regardless, too.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 15, 2016, 11:24:24 pm »
Then you put another one in so you can kick it.

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http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044
And excellent read about all the bollocks liberals bought into, putting Trump into the white house. Also an interesting look at the Republican opposition research on Sanders.
Huh. Y'know, I hadn't even noticed the dating issues mentioned near the beginning of that thing. Don't think it was even mentioned in anything I actually read on the subject, news wise in particular, and I'm pretty rough with calendar stuff unless I'm actively paying attention specifically to it (or doing bookkeeping, heh). It'd always been content and saturation that struck me as the lot of it being various degrees of bullshit, but that just tacks another level onto it.
I do find it funny that basically the narrative is switching to "The Democrats put Trump into the White House" :P

I guess even Republicans can't believe Trump has any semblance of competency and thus he needed his enemies to basically roll out the red carpet (albeit unwittingly).
I dunno about switching. Certain parts of the electorate's been pissed at the folks that stayed home pretty much since the EC was called, probably before. Fairly chunk of the post election analysis has been identifyin' 'em as more or less the major problem, or at least major symptom of problems.

Though yeah, that's... kinda' what it actually took for trump to get in. Folks opposed to him just kinda' chillin' and letting shit happen.

As y'note, no one believes trump's worth a damn, ha. Not even polling of republicans/conservatives found many people that actually liked him/thought he was competent.

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Yeah, I'm thinking four to eight years after trump's gone where it's actually someone bannon tier running for POTUS and folks like duke aren't just trying to gain notable footholds, or during where shit's going well enough not enough people refuse to look away if LGBT murder rates spike and hate crimes start rising. It's be nice in the short run but that's about it.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 15, 2016, 08:02:27 pm »
But

flushing?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 15, 2016, 07:59:41 pm »
... how do you secretly check...?

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Sure, but most of the GOP displayed pretty clearly this last year they don't really care about anything else :V

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