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Then figure out one that'll goddamn work because nothing else seems to, either, and at least castigation can keep parts of your own base riled up.

Sorry to butt in, but I just read an interesting piece at wapo.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/08/a-new-theory-for-why-trump-voters-are-so-angry-that-actually-makes-sense/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_2_na

It apparently predates the election by just a tiny bit, but seems to be spot on with what I have also observed in rural america.

Just putting it here because the question of "why" still seems to be getting asked.  Fits in very nicely with my position of "people are fed up with the ineffectiveness, inattention, and hysterionic shit of the left." For why trump had a groundswell there.

Thing I'd have to disagree with the most, obviously enough, is that statement near the beginning that the folks weren't hoodwinked, heh. They absolutely were, but it's a hoodwinking that's been building for decades.

Probably said it before, but, again. That these folks thought they weren't given attention and weren't getting effective aid wasn't something unknown. That's why so much policy, so much of the message coming specifically from the DNC, was aimed firmly at the groups in question. That these folks didn't have enough exposure to life outside their sphere and formed opinions accordingly, isn't some kind of revelation. Folks've been trying to figure out how to crack that for years, to little avail. It's a situation, with however much intent there was behind it, that the GOP and conservative elements in general have been engineering for years. They've stopped and strangled efforts to help these communities, and then told them it was the hand extended or right there with 'em what did it. Fed a lie, or at least a delusion, and it worked. Y'can't really get someone to listen or notice when they're refusing to hear or see. Still got no clue what to do about that except lie to 'em and say and do shit they will.

That wasn't what got people cosplaying sirens, neo.

Y'can see some of his economic related statements here, if you care to. Some stuff that could stand more or less on its own (not saying good or bad, just separate), others fairly bog standard GOP drown it in a bathtub stuff. Pretty much zero experience with business or commerce, though, which isn't exactly a point for.

Ask again two months in. We don't know, yet.

... also, those aren't mutually exclusive, so, uh. We could get both!

Eh, can see that I suppose. I mostly tend to group by narrative trend, basically. If you see something reporting that Islam is an ideology I don't see much point in differentiating based on whether it's an evangelical group doing it or a white supremacist one... assuming they're not one and the same, that is. Motivation may be different but how they're going about trying to excuse it is more similar than not.

Well, yes, but that hasn't stopped them before and it won't stop them in the future, heh.

Eeehhh... from what I understand, the katakana/romanji stuff isn't actually that bad, as languages go. Mind you, no second language is particularly easy, but still. Kanji, more of an issue, but it's apparently not that terrible to muddle through with a translation guide until you start recognizing enough to get the gist of things.