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Legally, the moment it's 9:00, anyone who is still in line at that point and no more can vote. They check this by having the resident police person who babysits the site get in line at precisely 9 PM, and anyone who is after the policeman/woman can't vote. In reality we get out at least an hour after this ends. <snip>

Heh. The nightmare scenario I'm thinking of for you is that that 9PM comes and it's a five or six hour line waiting when it does. Not saying it's even remotely likely, especially in NYC, but it wouldn't surprise me terribly much at this point if there's going to be some poor sad bastards running the polls (most likely in some corner of GOP land or another) that get stuck with that tomorrow.

In other news, I've now managed to check and/or convince most people around me that might have been considering trump and had much of a chance of listening (which admittedly wasn't many people, but still!) to, well. Not. Makes me feel a little better. It's been bloody weird having to actually have that conversation with folks whose just about everything is diametrically opposed to trump's character, rhetoric, policies, basically everything really, almost strictly because of the trainwreck of a media we've had over the last handful of months.

The avatar implies turtle more than sheep. Pretty sure turtles are fine with carrots. Think sheep are, too, but *shrugs*

@64, iirc most of the opposition is rooting from, well... small time growers, from what I remember of cali folks talking about it. Folks trying to avoid regulation and taxation, heh, not see more of it than the current proposition is recommending.

I'm currently in the mother of all lines for what is probly Clinton's last appearance. I will relay what I here. Might take a few hours in line though.

Please do, heh.

Though checking, it looks like she's slated to be in three different states (michigan, penns, NC) today, so it actually might not be the last.

... also there's apparently a midnight rally in raleigh (NC state reynolds coliseum). Technically tomorrow, but... yeah. E: Schedule. First I noticed, heh. I don't even want to contemplate the likely amount of caffeine going through that woman's blood stream right now.

Huh. If you're doing economics stuff, maybe a round of accounting? Something spreadsheet heavy. Logic or rhetoric class if they've got it. Maybe make a list, stick into random.org/a randomizer, hit the button a few times and go with what ends up on top. Intro culinary course to pick up some cooking skills?

Well, I got through, Isp. Person I talked to didn't have an answer, but they did say that they marked the question down and would direct it towards policy folks whenever they could be tracked down. Also said it's fairly likely they (the person I was talking to, at least) probably wouldn't really be able to get a hold of anyone until wednesday, though. If nothing else, someone's got the question now.

Good luck if y'try as well. Proooobably have to call more than once, heh... think it took 20-25 dials to finally get something besides the answering machine. Not that long time wise... maybe 30, 35 minutes (not of constant calling, but since I started trying to get through) total, which from experience really isn't even remotely bad for trying to contact an organization of this sort or one under similar pressure, work wise.

Incredibly trivial fun fact: It takes just shy of 40 seconds from first ring to get the "We're busy" message from the website contact number. The message itself is ~15 seconds long, probably a little more.

... holy shit, BFEL. If that's what you've seen you have not been seeing bloody jack-all. Just about everything even remotely negative of clinton has been blown massively out of proportion, when it's not just flat out invented; at the same time, trump's ridiculously myriad cavalcade of fuck ups barely get screen time. If you want some harder data you can look at something like this. There's more stuff out there if you feel like poking around.

From stuff like that, the treatment has been relatively equitable, to a fair degree -- which is the problem. Part of what that doesn't show is that even with the negative coverage trump is catching, a chunk of what's going on with trump (and where the "pro-trump bias" message comes from, to a large extent) is that it's not nearly as negative as it should be considering what a colossal pile of shit the man is. Whereas with clinton -- as we've seen in the past few days in relation to comey's mess, which has largely been par for the course for months to years -- stuff that's functionally nothing gets plastered across the airwaves and screamed to the heavens as writ gospel of malfeasance. The way media's been handling the two isn't even remotely equitable. If clinton or the clinton foundation had done a quarter of what trump or his foundation has done, the sodding media would catch fire and explode in their haste to take a shit on our dem candidate.

You want another example, you can do some google searching on the reaction to clinton ordering some emails deleted before a subpeona was, and then search around for how people's been reacting to the written testament of multiple bloody judges that trump and his company has spent years of time intentionally deleting electronic evidence while under investigation and doing his damnedest to obfuscate and obstruct as well. You'll notice something of a difference, and it's stuff like that where the accusations of pro-trump bias are coming from more than just about anything.

Maybe something directly from clinton

You can check ontheissues for some direct quotes related to the subject, track down the source at your leisure. Pretty sure there's something on her website, too, but the issues page currently seems to be on the fritz, at least for me, so I can't double check at the moment

There's also some lines in the third debate that's pretty consistent about a no-fly zone being in relation to negotiations and agreement with russia and syria.