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No, veritas is not probably bullshit. It's 100% repeatedly caught in the act bullshit. Again, they've made their career lying with film. It is what they do, it's what they've done, and it's pretty likely to be what they will continue to do.

But yeah, the fact that they've been edited to deceive is the solid reason to ignore them completely. They're not edited for consumption, they're edited to distort, and significantly. They've done it repeatedly. They've been caught repeatedly. This is not new, they are not unknown factors, there is actually no doubt in their lack of reliability. If they are providing material that is not raw, unedited, uncut footage, you cannot trust what they are releasing.

Last I heard the military was pretty strongly for Johnson over the other two.

Although this shows trump ahead a little:
http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/this-poll-of-the-us-military-has-gary-johnson-tied-with-donald-trump-in-the-race-for-president

Which isn't terribly surprising, really. Trump's pretty damn unpopular with a lot of the military, from what I've seen in person and otherwise. Shitting on vets and their families and expressing military policy best described as "bugnuts" will do that, oddly enough.

Still going to vote for trump a fair bit due to the conservative lean and the R beside his name, but soldiers and vets are actually pissed off at trump to a fairly notable degree

O'Keefe is in front of the camera before the 40s mark. The video is 16m26s long. I suppose it is technically accurate to say you watched 'some of it'.

The video is significantly longer than that, actually. That 16 and change is just whatever they decided to leave after cutting out and rearranging everything.

Seriously folks, veritas has made a career out of lying with film. If you're buying anything that comes out of one of their productions you're being willfully gullible at this point, as their history is incredibly easy to dig up. You can literally not trust a single thing from one of their videos to actually be what the source video recorded said. Evidence from veritas is not evidence at all, unless it is, again, the unedited source video. Which I still see is suspiciously missing.

Have you even watched the video I linked? And if so, do you have no issues with the things that Foval, 'Black' and others are caught saying? If you do have issues but believe they are down to 'video editing', can you point out specifically where and in what manner you believe things to have been done disingenuously?

Look, you link me the source(s) the video used and we can talk. The issue I have is that what they're saying on that video is damned likely to not actually be what they said. Because that is what veritas does. They're actually pretty damn good at the editing itself, to give 'em what credit they deserve. You pretty literally can't trust a single line of audio from anything they provide that isn't the actual unedited source video.

As for that particular email, I'm not even sure what you're trying to point out with it, tbh. Bird dogging isn't some kind of clandestine foul play, it's bloody standard politics. If you've been told it's something unusual, or for political groups to try to organize it, you're being lied to.

What, veritas's stuff? The head guy produces doctored film, creatively edited to completely bugger whatever the source material was. Done it repeatedly over the years, made a bloody career of it. You can trust pretty much nothing that comes out of them. Wikileaks is less fake and more "It doesn't say what you've been told it says", most of the time.

We need an "I Voted!" image to put/link to in sigs.

It's better if we don't, imo. Then I won't have to studiously ignore their existence :V

More like 60ish, I think. 8th. Not quite three full days.

It's not her absolute last rally, no, but one of them did end early, and that was in Florida, that sunny land of rain.

Sunny land of rain and storms, yes. Looks like the east coast is catching some at the moment, actually, or at least has the conditions for it.

Trump probably would have been eaten by something before reaching adulthood, even with his father trying to pull him out of every fire imaginable, in WH40k. Only thing he would have fit in there would have been something's stomach equivalent.

Regardless, thing that gets m'goat is it insults whatever he's being put in reference to. The effort put into creating these fictional characters deserves more respect than that, dagnabbit. Especially the ones that actually approach something like impressive, as villains go. Gil shouldn't be treated like that. None of the characters people keep tarring with the trump brush should

Too few, that's how many.