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It's more like a modern gameboy era Dragon Quest Monsters, tbh.

... which is kinda' like a fusion between pokemon and roguelikes that's not a mystery dungeon style game, yes.

E: Well, that with a side of "Rules Lawyering, Breaking the Game Edition". One of the bigger features the game has is that every single individual monster type has a unique special ability. Some are similar (particularly within families), but none are identical. Checking, there's at least 536 of them. And most of them aren't exactly trivial, "Here, have some extra stats" stuff.

Siralim 2. The... it has a family of monsters called waspids. As one might imagine, they're basically giant demon wasps. Today my summoning creature called one up.

The sound they make when they attack.

Is dead on.

For a wasp going right by your ears.

I had not realized how much I didn't want this in my life. Why, game. Why.

Nope.

Kind of feels like we're approaching the days where voting fraud and dirty tricks were rampant in the 19th century.

Voter fraud is still functionally sodding nonexistent. The dirty tricks are more of a thing, particularly via voter suppression*, but there's at least some pushback on that. Example being... gods, forgot already. But some legal injunction or another got refreshed on the republican party this cycle, for their continued dickbaggery on that front.

*Though it's kinda' lookin' like their recently preferred trick is to use voter registration fraud (which is more of a thing, but has pretty much fuckall to do with the actual vote) as an excuse to purge or stick legitimate (primarily minority, of bloody course) registrations in limbo.

Won't lie, isp, now you've got me curious as to the last POTUS candidate that did have anything approaching a position on legal immigrants. Clinton at least mentions them, but the closest I've noticed to actual policy that would maybe directly effect them would be the promise to deal with the family visa backlog. Poking around also seems to suggest at least some of the waivers are intended to legal immigrants; there's mention of the using them to knock down fees potentially roadblocking folks taking the last steps, ferex. There's been some statements with maybe a bit more kick than what you've noticed made specifically when stumping for immigrant heavy/minority areas/groups, apparently.

You misspoke. You meant "treating everything your opponent says as a lie". If someone treated everything as a lie, they wouldn't accept any claim.

Bork, you may not have paid much attention to this election. I didn't misspeak. Claims get accepted by the folks being spoken of, but by and large not on basis of whether it's a lie or not. That said, probably could have spoken better, yeah. Currently too much of a headache to manage much, and I'll probably not really remember the issue come tomorrow.

Not sure what the strikethrough was for, though. Attempt at sarcasm formatting?

Quote from: Frumple on November 01, 2016, 10:36:34 pm

Yeah, I can. Promise not 100% met is not a lie. Failure on one front is not failure on all.

True.  But reversal is something worse than failure.  And I think it should be understandable that someone would be especially soured, if that reversal is on an issue that's especially important to them.

Sure. But what we were just talking about was not "souring", it was taking one aspect and throwing every bloody thing else out with it. The transparency you just mentioned is actually an example of it. Obama definitely screwed the pooch on transparency in a lot of areas. There's also a number of areas where there were damn substantial gains. A straight up reversal it wasn't. What's not understandable is treating it as such. A failure on the net, maybe. Less than promised, definitely. But a reversal? A straight up full 180 let's make everything more opaque, or even something approaching it? No. Goddamnit all, it's not what has fucking happened, for all the gigantic bullshit that has.

... and I've gotten too out of it to remember where I was going with that, so bleh. But, like. You, SG? You seem to walk the line fairly well, from what I've seen you say. Lotta' shit happens, there's a lot of reasons to withhold a degree of credulity, but you mostly seem to be able to keep yourself from tossing it all out without incredibly goddamn solid reason, and seem to have the sense to keep that sort of thing fairly narrowly focused when you do. Can you say with a straight face very many others do? That the sort of distrust we're talking about doesn't very, very easily translate into guzzling down whatever bullshit is plated in the right colors and patterns? Because if there's bloody anything this election has shown us it's that there's a hell of a lot of people that do exactly that.

Great swaths of both sides believe most or all of the platforms are lies. Not much point in reading them if you don't think they represent anything of note.

Man, I was wondering what the hell was up with the comments from that... until I reached the end of 'em, ha.

Though yeah, it sometimes looks kinda' like that vis a vis sanders, MTM. For all the guy's been loitering around for bloody ever he hasn't seemed to accomplished all that much. Only so much y'can blame someone for that with congress being what it is, but still.

... MSH, "the power and pinnacle of typical corruption" is not just "any criticism." So... yeah.