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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 01, 2016, 10:31:59 am »
Quote from: SalmonGod on October 01, 2016, 10:13:25 am
I think the reason for the unenthusiastic left is it's hard for us to believe this isn't what's going on, and the main cause of this is we've sensed the attitude behind what we heard in this leak from the beginning.
Eh. It'd be nice if there was a better option, sure. But even disregarding 'is character and other policies, sanders likely managed to fuck us on the primary trail (specifically vis a vis college) and the rest of the current batch are... are. Generation of our politicians being what they are, I don't particularly care about the attitude so long as they're getting shit I like done, or at the least trying to.

Been around older folks enough to know genuine understanding's probably too much to ask for; so long as they're trying and working in our favor regardless of it, it'll do until the decaying blighters die off.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 01, 2016, 10:07:00 am »
Ex... cept her platform and proposed policies kinda' do show that, SG? Or at the very least that she intends to work towards stuff that'd make things better on those fronts.

I'unno, I don't expect any politician that hasn't recently went through this shit to really grok it, but I'd still say someone advocating for roughly the same stuff is someone that'd work as a representative. S'better than someone that'd claim to and then screw us over, anyway.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 01, 2016, 09:11:38 am »
... y'wouldn't happen to have sources for that, would you? 6.4 million is oddly specific, and some cursory searching can't seem to figure out where you're getting it from.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 01, 2016, 08:46:29 am »
Quote from: smjjames on October 01, 2016, 08:39:51 am
Quote from: Reelya on October 01, 2016, 08:36:45 am
Isn't there a big discrepancy because the US government only counts people looking for work as unemployed? Which is very different to how it works in Europe and Australia.

How does it work in Europe and Australia? And yes, they only count people who are looking for work and aren't actually employed.
Like this, apparently.
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An unemployed person is defined by Eurostat, according to the guidelines of the International Labour Organization, as someone aged 15 to 74 without work during the reference week who is available to start work within the next two weeks and who has actively sought employment at some time during the last four weeks.
That's for the EU.

Here's australia.
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The ABS uses internationally agreed standards in defining unemployment and the key indicators have been measured in a consistent way since 1966.
To be classified as unemployed a person needs to meet the following three criteria:

    - not working more than one hour in the reference week;
    - actively looking for work in previous four weeks; and
    - be available to start work in the reference week.

In comparison, the US does it like so:
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People are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work.

You'll, uh. Notice they're more or less identical.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 01, 2016, 08:26:56 am »
Quote from: Reelya on October 01, 2016, 08:12:34 am
And the statement still smacks of not getting it: she labels the basement-dwellers as "unhappy with the jobs available to them" which implies there are jobs available to them, if they just get off their asses, but they're too entitled to take the ones on offer.
... you imply that they're too entitled, anyway. Having been job searching for a while now, there usually are jobs available, it's just that they're often enough as bad or worse than not working at all. It's not entitlement that stops folks from getting jobs like that, it's being marginally more aware of things than the older folks that think any job is better than no job (which, being fair to them, it more often was when they were younger).

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 01, 2016, 08:08:55 am »
Quote from: Reelya on October 01, 2016, 07:57:53 am
She labels moving for Scandinavian-based healthcare and education policy (which are both working models in real life) as "idealism", yet supports a weird healthcare model crudely hacked together, which has never been tested anywhere, that's being pragmatic.
... in the face of the american political landscape? It kinda' is. As much as we'd fucking love a leftwards healthcare system instead of what we got, there's this small problem of several tens of millions of conservatives (just as a start) that wouldn't -- didn't -- exactly go along with it.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: October 01, 2016, 07:27:23 am »
Quote from: smjjames on September 30, 2016, 11:21:49 pm
The dumb remark aside, she seemed to sorta get it, but not all Sanders supporters are that young.
... consider reading the whole statement in question, smj. She didn't say they were. Some is a qualifier that exists. It denotes a portion smaller than the entirety, and usually smaller than at-most a plurality.

Maybe the tone paints a different picture, but just reading what was said it's... the same thing I've heard come out of the generation in question (and some surrounding it) talking about themselves. Right down to the wording, since "living in their parents basement" is one of the things us general lot use as shorthand for all the shit surrounding many of us having to fall back on family support now that the older generations and vagrancies of economy and whatnot have screwed us into not having as many advantages as they did. Can tell it's going to be fucked out of context and into the circus tentpole of distortion in short order, but if she said something out of line a metric ton of the people she was talking about are about as off :-\

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: October 01, 2016, 07:06:07 am »
Quote from: Max™ on September 30, 2016, 11:58:48 pm
Yeah, but SK is like a thousand years old and Zodd is at least 300 years old. So SK was in their shoes a lot earlier than that.
No, no. They went straight from whatever they were doing before to the modern world only that decade or two earlier. They've still got all that going on but they've only been acclimating to the present day for a relatively small amount of time.

now all we have to do is give them the nyarko treatment and the dish is done to perfection

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: September 30, 2016, 11:25:58 pm »
Says you. Clearly you don't know anime landlords. For reasons best left unspeculated, SK would be in the main apartment more often than anyone is comfortable with. Also, don't ask how the horse got in there.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 30, 2016, 11:23:33 pm »
Something something damned spot? Any idea what's causing it besides the guilt of kinslaying?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 30, 2016, 11:21:08 pm »
Got a bit o'chug, in other words. I've seen worse. Can't remember the game but I do remember playing one for far too long, getting about one second game time for every three or four real. The in game playing time and steam hours tracked was... not congruent. Seen worse than that, too, but that's about the worst I've been willing to deal with and still play. The wonders of minimum system specs (and occasionally cpu throttling, for love of unscorched crotch.).

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Other Games / Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« on: September 30, 2016, 06:38:56 pm »
Tis asphodel, though, so it's only +1 at most :P

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: September 30, 2016, 04:56:19 pm »
I'm up for it. You bring the clamps, I'll bring the hedge clippers.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: September 30, 2016, 03:41:59 pm »
... they must take landscaping very seriously wherever you are if an intercontinental missile barrage is acceptable reprisal for poor lawn maintenance.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 30, 2016, 03:30:32 pm »
"I know what you did." is always a good one.

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