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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: September 21, 2016, 03:43:16 pm »
Does this mean that the left is now becoming the new right? Because it certainly seems a lot more hilarious as of late.
No, it doesn't. Note well I said moreso. There's still a hell of a gulf between the two, even if some of the political and rhetoric techniques are becoming even more ubiquitous. Some of the extremes touch a bit but we've got a hell of a lot more of one extreme. Can you guess when one it isn't? It starts with an L, and doesn't end with -tarian.
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Point is, caricatures have always been a thing, but when it gets to the point that you're treating real, living people you interact with as said caricatures, then you've pretty much thrown away your perception in favor of a political narrative.
Strawman, mate. From hell. Folks get treated how they act, by and large, and both ends of the spectrum still are largely fine working with each other when someone involved in the interaction isn't being a massive shit. It's just some of us seem damned intent on being just that. (Hint: They're the ones getting shat on, here.)
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Another good thing is realizing that the US is kind of fuckhuge, so your personal experience, no matter how geographically encompassing it may be, will never be able to paint a realistic picture of the entire thing.
Having been from one coast to the other, I'm pretty damn aware the country's bloody huge. Oddly enough, there's still some pretty serious similarities among political inclinations that are geographically distant, particularly among conservatives (unsurprisingly, that's what happens when diversity and whatnot isn't much encouraged by the platforms involved). There's differences, too, but we ain't exactly talkin' about blue dogs or rockefellers or whatev'. You might not be able to peg down literally every single political group or individual in the country but identifying common behavioral patterns and ideological positions between large ones ain't the most difficult thing in the world to manage. It's not much of a challenge to have a pretty decent idea of what you're walking into for a particular political environment.
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What I'm saying is, don't imediately dismiss people because they disagree with you, because thats kinda the point of modern society, because things got rather shitty when people did otherwise.
If you think simple disagreement is the problem you have not paid one lick of attention to what's going on here. Folks ain't being dismissed or whatever the hell because they just disagree or just because of what side they're on, it's happening because of the positions they're expressing and supporting. Oddly enough, when a conservative shows up and expresses positions that aren't, well, Trump-tier, them and their supporters don't catch nearly as much flak. Helps if they're not the closest thing you can be to a literal con-man and not be in a jail cell, too. You'll also note well that as long as the subject isn't politics folks can usually still get along fairly well if, again, someone involved isn't a massive shit.

Not so sure I can say the thing same about liberal candidates, though. The conservative hate machine runs strong, and doesn't care nearly as much about silly shit like "facts" or "honesty". Which is a hell of a thing to say, because the other end of our media isn't exactly the most observant about either, either.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American
« on: September 21, 2016, 02:36:11 pm »
Then everyone lost decades ago, because the caricatures and whatnot coming from the right are at least as foul and pervasive. Usually moreso, from what I've seen living in conservative areas.

Though you're doing the same thing when you say it's a dismissal of their political counterpoints in entirety, by and large. Because, y'know. It's not.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 21, 2016, 02:31:20 pm »
Sudden and rather strange urge for orange juice. It's strange because most brands of the stuff taste pretty bad to me, the one currently in the house definitely included. Still drinking it. The aftertaste is foul. As usual.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 21, 2016, 11:00:06 am »
... I'm happy you didn't end up killing someone, myself.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 21, 2016, 08:35:13 am »
That just means horrific fanfics.

Why someone would want to write about that, though...
The same reason 90+% of classical literature exists. Among other things.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 21, 2016, 08:33:36 am »
It's canon inheritable, but apparently pretty drastically increases the chance of birth defect or miscarriage. though naturally enough, narrative/marvel writing being what it is, we don't appear to have any examples of either actually happening

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That... probably depends on who's caring about it, I think? And sometimes the laws involved, too -- there's places in the US that will recognize ages of the majority below their own on certain subjects and to certain extents, if whatever it's relevant to happened outside their jurisdiction and somewhere where the age was lower, ferex. More or less like MSH is saying, though -- the rub would be if the parents or the citizenship country are trying for some kind of legal challenge and actually have some way to make the host country listen to them. International jurisdiction stuff basically defaults to bloody complicated and gets worse from there. Best bet to find out would probably be to contact (email, whatever) an organization that deals with international stuff involving minors (US, ferex, would be something like these guys). Bit of googling couldn't find any relevant information, unfortunately.

And it would depend, MSH. Theoretically for US citizens the US age of majority applicable to them applies everywhere so far as being charged in a US court goes, because our laws follow all of us everywhere and if we do something illegal by US laws but not the local ones, we can still be charged when we get home (possibly via extradition due to the legal issue in question) and tried in a US court. It pretty close to never sodding happens vis a vis majority laws, so far as I'm aware, especially for cases that don't involve stuff like sex tourism (particularly because a lot of the stuff relevant doesn't actually penalize the minor, but instead whoever did whatever -- sold beer, screwed, juggled flaming minigun chainsaws, who the hell knows -- with them), but it's a possibility. I'm not entirely sure how many countries have similar legal mechanics going on, but last I remember paying anything attention I seem to recall the answer being "most of them".

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Other Games / Re: League of Legends - Patch 5.1 - Open the Gates
« on: September 20, 2016, 08:56:04 pm »
Why stop at that? Bring rengar too and just make it a kill lane that consumes anything that gets close.

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Other Games / Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« on: September 20, 2016, 08:51:36 pm »
Doesn't Nazca have a magic boosting ritual? The Nazca lines, or whatever they're called in game. Probably too late in the research tree to use it effectively but still. That should be an option.
Geoglyphs, apparently. Ench 5 isn't that bad, but it isn't good, either. Also you need an S3E2 flyer to cast it. So an astral random coya or a chunk more research for a booster. And it has to be in a waste.

... what I'm saying is you'll probably have better results hoping you find a magic scale site :V

E: Or building your pretender around it, I guess? That's feasible.

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Other Games / Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« on: September 20, 2016, 07:52:10 pm »
Probably your best chance there would be doing it to a province with a magic scale site, heh. Can't recall if there's any rituals that would let you do it own your own.

... actually, now I realize I can't recall exactly which scales can be modified like that. I know heat/cold is an option, and sloth, but the rest...

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I'm always worried about our fishy resources.  :'( Ocean Acidification could kill them all.   :o
Hey, deoxygenation could get them instead/too.

That one we could arguably be less worried about, in a sense. If it happens we're back at the largest mass extinction event in earth's history and almost certainly going with them so it doesn't really matter :V

At least I think I remember the acidification being the more survivable of the two for terrestrial macroorganisms. Decent odds of both happening, though, if either one of them really takes off, iirc.

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The norse dwarves were... not exactly good. More neutral than anything. Also they were sorta' not dwarves. The svarts are considered synonymous with dwarves (and called that, as well, with a different word) but that particular name means dark elf. Norse dwarves were a type of elf, basically.

They were also willing to trade their services for the chance for the chance to ride a train on a goddess. Which they did. For several days. Freya really wanted that necklace.

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General Discussion / Re: Would you want your SO to Fight for your honor?
« on: September 19, 2016, 11:07:42 pm »
That sounds more like khornate fundamentalists, actually. Orcs tend to use methods besides an acid wash.

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Other Games / Re: SALES Thread
« on: September 19, 2016, 08:25:40 pm »
Probably not, considering there kinda' aren't any. You can form alliances with certain neutral races but that's about as close as it gets.

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