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General Discussion / Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« on: December 03, 2012, 01:48:18 am »
It doesn't make you a serial rapist, but you should seriously sit down and think about it. Alcohol and consent are two things that get very muddy very quickly, as there's a very dangerous area of where reasonable consent and the withdrawl of it that can potentially end very badly. Don't get drunk and have sex with someone, and don't have sex with someone who's drunk - whether you're raping them or not, it's still creepy as hell to be engaging in intimacy with someone who you acknowledge doesn't have a clear mind.

Also if you're abusing alcohol that frequently you probably have other issues at work there. If you feel you need a substance to enhance or engage a social situation, you probably need to take a step back and reevaluate it's position in your life.

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General Discussion / Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« on: December 03, 2012, 01:25:43 am »
Well for starters you can stop assuming that rape is something that's only done by big heug muscle barbarians and not by lonely angry nerds with big issues with malformed ideas of 'informed consent' and 'social contexts'.

You don't get some kind of medal because you managed to go one day without sticking your dick in someone who didn't want it, you know.

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General Discussion / Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« on: December 03, 2012, 01:06:49 am »
G-Flex, you seem to think that rapists aren't, in general, either unbalanced or stupid. You can't just say "don't rape".

The blame is entirely on the rapist, but it's not so simple to discourage it.

It's not so simple but it's a huge positive shift to not put the onus on not being raped on the potential rapist rather than the potential victim. Women everywhere are taught how to avoid being raped but that doesn't avoid the problem that men aren't taught enough that it's not ok to slutshame and seuxally assault women.

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General Discussion / Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« on: December 03, 2012, 12:56:46 am »
As for slutwalks... we know there are men out there who are not in control of their cocks, therefore it is only sensible to mitigate possible criminal damage in advance and perhaps dress accordingly.

This is literally a 'well if they didn't want to get raped, they shouldn't have dressed like that!' arguement. The fault of rapes lies in the rapist, not in the person being raped. That is an absolutely, undefendable, unequivocally horrible point of view and congratulations on offending every victim of sexual assault ever by telling them it's all their fault.

Holy shit.

If you think that it's ok that 'some guys just can't help themselves!' then you are a big part of the problem.

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As for slutwalks... we know there are men out there who are not in control of their cocks, therefore it is only sensible to mitigate possible criminal damage in advance and perhaps dress accordingly.

Imagine if people did a march for the right to walk through black neighborhood with a sign "I hate niggers!" It is our right, after all. Then you get beat up. "How does someone DARE to suggest leaving the sign home?! ME, the VICTIM!"

Now someone's going to jump at me saying "That's not the same! You're such a bigot!"

That's not the same, and yeah, you are a bigot. Open hate speech without expecting people you're preaching hate against to retaliate is nowhere close to being the same as dressing however you want and expecting not to be sexually assaulted.

You're on a roll of awful today, man.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 02, 2012, 10:00:22 pm »
Still, though... Burger King.

Best name for Nord Kore'er? Or bestest name for Nord Kore'er?

A bit insensitive to name a population that's basically been starved to death by it's rulers after a fast-food icon.

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General Discussion / Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« on: December 02, 2012, 09:34:58 pm »
And don't forgot that this guy didn't exist in a vaccum. He was pretty clearly an alt of someone who has either already posted in this thread or was already a member of the community who felt the need to hide behind a proxy and stir shit up.

That's really not a healthy forum culture.

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General Discussion / Re: Gendrer Equality Thread.
« on: December 02, 2012, 05:38:15 pm »
This is why we can't have threads like this. No matter how obvious it is that Weegee there is trolling, there are far too many people on this forum who either agree with him, or don't disagree enough to call him out on it. Feminism is more relevant than ever because shit like this still exists.

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General Discussion / Re: Feminism today Discussion Thread
« on: December 02, 2012, 05:24:11 pm »
Start your own thread on it if you want, it'd be the funniest thing I'd have read in a while.

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General Discussion / Re: Feminism today Discussion Thread
« on: December 02, 2012, 05:18:02 pm »
If you're a woman in Saudi Arabia and vote for Islamic fundamentalist, you're not oppressed, you're an idiot.

You do realise that Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy and the only public positions available for people to vote into are advisory and local bodies, with very little actual power and outright no power at all to institute national change? It's still against the law for a woman in Saudi Arabia to drive or literally do anything in public without the escort or permission of a male family member.

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General Discussion / Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« on: December 02, 2012, 03:49:46 pm »
See edit. Thanks for proving that half the people in this thread just plain don't read the posts.

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General Discussion / Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« on: December 02, 2012, 03:45:27 pm »
I cannot believe that someone literally posts 'it is disingenuous to believe there is any inequality between the sexes' unironically and you guys manage to ignore it entirely and flip out over someone four posts above being 'sexist to a man'.
No, I did not literally post that.
And neither did anybody else. Apart from you, right there.

oh you're right let me just

I'm starting to think that the answer to the op is :  "because there are none".

wait

I'm starting to think that the answer to the op is :  "because there are none".
Sexism in the sexism thread.
Stay classy Bay12!

oh dear

e: unless you're talking about the first part in which case

It's simply dishonest to claim one sex has it worse than the other.

howdy, doody

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General Discussion / Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« on: December 02, 2012, 03:35:11 pm »
I cannot believe that someone literally posts 'it is disingenuous to believe there is any inequality between the sexes' unironically and you guys manage to ignore it entirely and flip out over someone four posts above being 'sexist to a man'.

What the fuck, bay12. This is some basement-dweller shit right here.

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General Discussion / Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« on: December 02, 2012, 02:18:44 am »
Oh wow, I had no idea this forum had so many wanna-be knights in shining armor. (Or perhaps they all just gather in "why don't women like nice guys"-thread.) It's simply dishonest to claim one sex has it worse than the other. You might as well bitch about: "The opposite sex doesn't have to carry testicles/breasts! How UNFAIR is that?! :'("

One could make an evo-psy argument to why feminists scream "victim" the loudest, however.

post of the year 2012

amazing

e:

2. You can't use 'the abortion debate' as an argument for feminism, as it's a really massive moral issue, and not entirely relevant to the rights of a woman.

close second

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General Discussion / Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« on: December 01, 2012, 11:02:36 pm »
It's not that complex at all if you took my saying 'the vast majority of poor people' to mean 'literally all women everywhere are always oppressed and no men ever are anywhere' as you seem to have. There are poor people and oppressed people everywhere, it's just that statisically you're far likely to be both and a woman.

We've already had enough ridiculous hyperbole and goalpost-shifting in this thread.

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General Discussion / Re: "Why don't women like nice guys?"
« on: December 01, 2012, 10:49:28 pm »
Gosh, you're right! Let's instead focus on the vasy majority of people worldwide who are poor and culturally discriminated against in their own countries. In fact, this is such an important movement, let's name this bold new ideal after the vast-majority group who is being affected as such. This new movement would seek as a bold new sweeping motion helping to highlight the plights of this group and raise their status up to those of others around them, helping establish equality through not providing bias and privelage, but simply granting them the base rights that they deserve and have been denied them for generations.

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