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Just to add to that - you might want to delete the entire directory where companion is installed and put the new one in its place, rather than just copying into the same place, if you've upgraded from a prior version.

Nice try, but 40d is not 40d16. The memory values are not the same; utilities that work on 40d need to be updated to work with the 40d## series.

Huh. I got nothing, then; it had no problems finding MY DF process.

Quote from: Shurhaian on December 01, 2009, 08:20:32 am

Actually, the whole point I'm trying to get at is that civs don't always go by what makes sense.

If you went by what was useful, gold would be utterly worthless.

Sure, elves don't do metalwork, but how badly do they want it? They have their nice, pretty wooden items, which are never decorated with ugly menacing spikes. Oh, no doubt they want a bit of variety, but I don't know that they'd value metal especially highly.

Not entirely true, gold would be valuable in the modern world for it's conductive qualities - it's a damn good conductor of electricity and sound, plus it has other uses such as the electron microscope.

I really don't think dwarves are going to be producing electron microscopes in DF anytime soon.

HFS questions here.

Actually, the whole point I'm trying to get at is that civs don't always go by what makes sense.

If you went by what was useful, gold would be utterly worthless.

Sure, elves don't do metalwork, but how badly do they want it? They have their nice, pretty wooden items, which are never decorated with ugly menacing spikes. Oh, no doubt they want a bit of variety, but I don't know that they'd value metal especially highly.

All sounds pretty good. I like your thoughts on dwarves, humans and gold, but I'll always recall the great dwarven drinking, mining, and drunken mining song, "Gold gold gold gold, gold gold gold."

"Dwarfs don't love gold. We just say that to get it into bed."

Anyway. I'm not saying dwarves should not LIKE gold. Just that they'd be that much more likely to save their TRUE fondness for the metals that are actually useful. All those glittering prizes of the Earth are partly useful for dwarves' own treasures, and partly for trading to those silly humans to buy up their works of iron to melt down and put to proper dwarven use.

Details are obviously somewhat fluid. But DF doesn't necessarily need to follow every fantasy trope anyway - I've certainly never heard of elves eating the sentients they kill before coming to DF.

Recap: I do think dwarves should value gold enough to still use it as currency, for instance. And platinum and aluminum deserve to be more valuable still, even though they're ONLY pretty and rare(and in aluminum's case, wonderfully light). Just that they might not have their priorities about it quite so screwed up as humans.