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Now that I've been told the source of all the obscuring normal DF files, I might have a crack at creating some wild animals/livestock for this!

Edit: DF crashes on launch, saying it's missing curses 600*400

Thats really, really odd.

How exciting, the first turn is done!

A bit less than I expected, but to be honest, entities take long to make. Also, regarding the Modder's Resource, I wish that we replace that with a more functional and less fancy one. Not at all because I can't seem to insert a row without fucking up the entire thing, but because I can't seem to insert a row without fucking up the entire thing.

...And a simpler one would allow filtering and ordering and stuff.

I have no idea how to do that, unfortunately.

I think once bug fixes are complete, I'll start on the main antagonist race, the invading... dunno what to call them.

Found this thread while looking into implementing an alchemy/magic system of some kind.

Now, I'm a novice modder at best, so forgive me if I've misunderstood something, or made incorrect assumptions about something, but I think I have an idea that might work. It's only a theory though.

It seems to me, based on reading this, that the issue with applying a syndrome through inhalation is that due to the breathing tick, the target creature can only inhale a small number of times, as the gas fades before they have another chance to breath it in. Even when generating a large number of boiling stones, the gas still fades away in relatively the same amount of time, correct? And IndigoFenix's work around gives multiple chances for the effect to work, but runs multiple reactions.

My theory, I believe, may work relatively well. If you could extend the amount of time there's gas in the air, it would give the creature more chances to breathe it in and be affected. Containers affect the temperature of their contents, raising or lowering them depending on it's own temperature. What if you had the reaction produce a number of stones and place them in a container with a fixed temperature just over their boiling point? Give each stone a different spec_heat value calibrated so that when the gas of one dissipates, another one boils(would require testing to get the time right). Or better yet, have multiple clones that boil simultaneously so theirs a greater chance of the inhalation happening. This way, the air is full of syndrome-gas for a longer amount of time using one reaction, giving a more reliable(not 100%, unless you do it for a very long time, but close) rate of effectiveness.

I could be misunderstanding absolutely everything, but I'm pretty sure that'll boost effectiveness if it works.
Edit: May not be the most elegant of solutions...

There's tonnes of files for stuff like wolverines and geckos, in files headed with community donation thanks.

What link are you using?

Edit: And, are you using a second copy DF with the raw file removed when installing?

So, I DLed the files, and virtually everything in there is standard Toady stuff? I thought the point here was working from flat-out scratch, no hand-holding?

The only vanilla stuff left in is the stuff the game refuses to function without.

Should be a few files with a _shutupdf ending, and so forth but the rest is us. Should be quite a few _bsk and _urd files.

Alright, how about we cull everything that doesn't make sense, but otherwise keep vanilla as a base(because we aren't going to generate a massive amount of words), and then just add on everything past that?

That way no one is making a new base from scratch, and we still have a fairly large base so that we don't get repeated things that often, but we have words that make sense where they are, and can then be expanded.

Edit: I made a poll to go with it, because I think this is more or less all the unique ideas we can have for this.

I'm fairly sure it has no function right now.

So, an old token that's lost it's function then?

So, does anyone have a good idea of what the [MAGICAL] token does? The wiki say "Unknown."

For the record, I favor vanilla words + custom symbols & translations. Don't mind using a custom word file, but its the making of a new word file that's the annoying part. Still, if you're up for the challenge, sure thing.

Alternatively, we could opt to use a mod like Language Unlocked or the Dictionapocalypse project, which both supplement the vanilla raws with even more words.

I've been looking for something exactly like those!
I think that using expanded vanilla+custom symbols is the most favorable.

Edit: I don't mind adding new words, but the already expanded lists have most of the words I would want to add, and repeating work isn't a fun task.