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Well lets not argue sources and stuff like that and just get an update. Looks like we've suggested all we're gonna for this turn unless someone else has something to add....?

Quote from: kahn1234 on March 15, 2013, 06:43:54 am

Quote from: kaian-a-coel on March 15, 2013, 06:42:05 am

Quote from: kahn1234 on March 15, 2013, 05:49:08 am

Queen Elizabeth went into battle in full plate armour when she was 8 months pregnant. Women dont suddenly become meek and weak when pregnant.

I... uh... Doubt it heavily. Especially when said queen had no children (was she ever pregnant?)
You have to admit that pregnancy is quite the big deal, and make most women physically weaker.

Speaking of full plate armor, I think it is unsuited to harassment tactics like we are going to engage (due to being horribly heavy), so I'll suggest sticking with our lighter mail armour as long as we're hit & running. And take a bow for ourselves.

"(due to being horribly heavy)" "lighter mail armour"

Please dont make that mistake. they are both roughly the same weight (contrary to popular belief) and plate is actually lighter as instead of resting on the shoulders and hips only (and being far more fatiguing) plate armour fits the entire body and equally distributes weight.

Stick with plate armour.

And Gerv, i've already said i made a mistake. must have been mixing up my Queens.

If you substitute "weight" for "restriction" then he might have a point. While plate armor is surprisingly light and relatively nonrestrictive(there are reports of knights being able to do handstands and tumbling tricks while wearing it!), it still interferes with archery enough to be an issue. So unless we ARE gonna be with our archers, stick to the plate mail

Quote from: kahn1234 on March 15, 2013, 05:49:08 am

Quote from: Gervassen on March 15, 2013, 05:18:03 am

Quote from: tryrar on March 15, 2013, 04:32:34 am

My point is, we'll need someone to command the forces we leave behind, and so that's either Marna or Alan(as Captain of the Watch: Since Fin is our Militia Captain he'll be coming with us on campaign).

Fair point, but these circumstances are extremely bad. I'd rather she weren't pregnant at all. A late-term pregnant woman isn't going to travel well.

Also, a note about the asymmetrical warfare to harmonize what we're doing. I think we can all agree that this relies on dismounting most of our archers and footmen in some place with good cover, a roadside copse of wood, a thick hedgerow, a small abandoned village, a stone fence along the road, a gorge, etc. Those of us with the fastest mounts ride ahead to scout their encampments, and possibly lure some of their light cavalry into following us, then ride past our ambush site. Repeat at different places as possible. From the way they chased our messenger, they seem very eager to pursue--we can rid them of that eagerness.

Queen Elizabeth went into battle in full plate armour when she was 8 months pregnant. Women dont suddenly become meek and weak when pregnant.

........huzzah wha...? source. Please!(Not doubting you just wanna read more about that, that's awesome! )

Quote from: kahn1234 on March 15, 2013, 05:49:08 am

Queen Elizabeth went into battle in full plate armour when she was 8 months pregnant. Women dont suddenly become meek and weak when pregnant.

Erm... The virgin queen... pregnant... in armour? Let's pass over that remark before we get into talking about  depictions of women in Hollywood rubbish films.

Actually, women are relatively weak even before they're pregnant. Arm-wrestle a few. When they're pregnant, they miscarry hella easily, and a significant amount of women die at this time in even the best birthing conditions.

Quote from: tryrar on March 15, 2013, 04:32:34 am

My point is, we'll need someone to command the forces we leave behind, and so that's either Marna or Alan(as Captain of the Watch: Since Fin is our Militia Captain he'll be coming with us on campaign).

Fair point, but these circumstances are extremely bad. I'd rather she weren't pregnant at all. A late-term pregnant woman isn't going to travel well.

Also, a note about the asymmetrical warfare to harmonize what we're doing. I think we can all agree that this relies on dismounting most of our archers and footmen in some place with good cover, a roadside copse of wood, a thick hedgerow, a small abandoned village, a stone fence along the road, a gorge, etc. Those of us with the fastest mounts ride ahead to scout their encampments, and possibly lure some of their light cavalry into following us, then ride past our ambush site. Repeat at different places as possible. From the way they chased our messenger, they seem very eager to pursue--we can rid them of that eagerness.

Well, I do have one last detail to add. Take ALL the stockpiles of gold and silver from the mines that we might have, take them somewhere out into the wilderness and bury them(making sure we can find them later) so that if worst comes to very worst the invaders won't get them. Also, take our squire aside, tell him he's staying behind, and explain why:If everything goes completely to hell he is to smuggle Marna out of the fief and have her flee to the capital. Instruct him that in this matter, no matter what she says, no matter how he does it, and no matter what methods he uses, he is to get her to the King If nothing else, our heir will survive and live on.

Edit: I actually have a better idea for the stash location than the wilderness. Tear up part of the brick paving in the market, dig out the stash, put the silver in, cover it, bury it, and repave that section. If we do it now, the bricks might weather enough to blend in with the surrounding brick and nobody will know

I guess yes. If the Duke dies, we may end up taking his place (due to Marna), but I think it's not really appropriate for our character to let his uncle-in-law (is that a word? Or three I guess) dies purely out of greed. We have to do something, but unfortunately we can't really do anything by ourselves.

Remember though that the count is our liege lord, so he'd be technically in charge, so We'd really have to wait for him to make the move(otherwise we'd piss him off even more than we already have!)