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I'm thinking the fungiwood seeds got eaten then. However, magma! Hallelujah!

Great job, jimboo. I think you have restored some semblance of order to our madness. Now that food is covered we can begin to think about perhaps growing some tree plots for fuel. I'm pretty sure I embarked with lots of fungiwood seeds so the next overseer can get some of those planted for our renewable energy.

I also don't consider digv to be a cheat: it does the same thing a player could do but without all the tedious micro. I also don't consider having kids do certain labors to be cheating; throughout history and all across the world there are jobs that kids as young as 4 or 5 do. Honestly I think its fucking ridiculous that they are just allowed to lounge around and suck up resources until 12 in vanilla (I think masterwork changed it to a much more reasonable eight). I mean what the hell is this? Some kind of progressive, liberal society or something? We don't need no stinkin' values!

Pi_age, your turn is up. Will you take SILVERGOOSE into its golden age of prosperity and rampant violence? Whatever happens just don't let the vampire out; he is our insurance. As long as he's trapped in his cell secluded bunker the fortress will persist.

On another note: I believe the Human historian Monty Python once documented the horror that is the WERE-RABBIT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

Skipping ahead a bit to mid-Winter, our Vampire Apostle is now running around and babbling.  He refuses all labors.  And clothes, apparently.

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Wiki says vampire insanity comes from outliving relationships but ours has only relations that did not come to the fortress with him.  He is not cursed.  He hasn’t eaten or slept in a year but isn’t listed as even thirsty.  The only things he likes we could possible provide are fishing supplies.

What can be done for him?

I'm afraid that once you go batshit crazy there is no coming back...just leave him where he is and maybe he'll snap out of it someday?

Find the two miserable dwarves and send them to the apothecary to be lobotomized. Same with the kids. I'll be damned if a couple useless, walking stomachs are the end of the fortress. Use dwarf therapist to assign them the labor needed to jam a sharp object so far up their nose that they can smell red, and hopefully their interactions afterwards will be composed of mumbling "hodor" and shuffling about aimlessly.

Are those giants immune to fire or something? Shouldn't they have killed themselves when they lit everything on fire? Maybe at this point we should be considering lobbing rocks at the invaders with a catapult rather than risking more marksdwarves lives. If you can find some way to light the outside of the fort on fire even better. Maybe use some of that burning/exploding catapult ammo to do so.

Either way, its starting to look like the vampire may be the only dwarf who gets through this. If that's the case, if it gets down to a couple dwarves and him, just let him out. He can feed off the dwarves and hopefully stave off insanity long enough for another immigration wave. Though at this point we may be forced to use the town portal to attract more migrants.

If jimboo manages to keep the fort alive we do need another overseer. I will volunteer for the task if no one else is willing, but I would rather have someone new then start cycling through previous overseers. So if your reading this and interested, let me know. Yes, I understand this is akin to asking someone to preside over a nation experiencing its judgment day, but there is something to be said for grim determination.

On another note:

What if this was his plan all along? Holed up in his safe little bunker, keeping stock of the forts wares by peaking out through cracks in the walls....watching...waiting..until he was the only dwarf left. Then it will be just him. Reigning over a kingdom of corpses and fabulous golden mugs. Who is this mysterious vampire anyway? Can we get some screenshots or something?

Haha oh wow...why the giants would even attack is beyond me. I doubt we have reached the wealth requirement. I have a feeling that vampire may end up being the sole sane and unmaimed member of our fortress. Too bad there's no way to make everyone forget all their relations. That way you could just dump most of the population outside and basically start over with just fishermen and farmers. We may be fucked but this sure is fun!

Ranged units without a valid path to their target will not shoot if set to "kill" order. But if you just station them there, they should shoot at everything that comes in sight.

And I like how people completely freak out, just because farms are slower. Why not order a trade licence, buy food for hard cash in form of coins, or build 10 fishfarms underground, or go hunting in the caverns with your military? I also saw a lot of pets in one screenshot. Better to eat them, than to starve.

PS: The Herbalists Lab can cultivate plants instantly, if you have the ingredients.

We are freaking out not because farming takes longer, but because we didn't know it would take longer and thus did not prepare adequately. Honestly, harder farming is really cool and actually feels appropriate, you just have to plan a little more and have way more farms and farmers in general which usually is not a problem. If pets were eaten dwarves would probably tantrum.

Question about fish farms: are nets and poles used up when farming? In the raws it looked like they were but I could have sworn I had used it before and they persisted. Admittedly, I kinda always forget about those things, but now would be a good time to build about ten or so. I am also curious if the ponds on the inside of the wall are being fished out.

Quote from: mensrea on December 25, 2013, 08:18:00 pm

Sign me up to be orced and overseered warbossed if you don't mind. I do have a question about orcs though: do they have tantruming disabled or something? They don't seem to be as sensitive as dwarves.

If that's your way of claiming Tulbuk then done. She's pretty much our warboss/war chief.

And orcs as far as I know will pitch a fit eventually, but they may be a bit more resistant to it. But I expect a lot of orcs to die in the near future.

Oh no, sorry, what I meant was to sign me up for a turn playing. Although I don't mind being orced as the warboss, as long as shes a derelict and a drunkard.