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I'd rather see him make the game as it stands now work instead of wasting time on adventure mode. This is likely to do nothing more than add more simulation (and thus slow down processing) of stuff that the player will never see.

The easiest way to automate it is to put the three types you need on repeat, and then use the workflow commands in dfhack to keep a set amount of each type in your stockpiles.

Here's the thing I can't understand why you won't acknowledge: That IS adding something to the game.  That is exactly what SHOULD happen.  Having to put the mass you remove somewhere else in the game IS adding depth and value to the game. 

Part of the reason your ideas receive so much hostility is that you want to take a game that is already extremely slow paced and make it even slower paced.  Right now, the game runs at around half to a tenth of the speed that it would need to run at to be truly enjoyable.  If I could simulate a year of game time in ten real world minutes then I wouldn't care so much if building a functioning fort takes years of game time.  But since the current speed is closer to a few hours per year, that's just not workable.  I have about five-ten hours a week at most to play games, I'm not about to spend an entire real-world year on a single fort.

The second reason you're receiving so much hostility is that you're openly hostile to those players who value DF as a sandbox, and don't really care about making it a better game.  Games are commonplace.  Sandbox simulations are rare.  Rarity is valuable.

The third reason you're receiving hostile responses is because you're treating people as though you are a teacher and they are students instead of treating them as your equals.  You don't get to tell people that they don't know how to have fun, or rail that they shouldn't find the things fun that they do.  You are not the universal arbitrator of fun.

People already spend all day in their working lives dealing with economics.  They don't spend all day dealing with military conquest.  That's why the military is treated as fun.  Since you don't understand even this most basic part of the human psyche, it leaves me wondering what else you fail to understand about what people enjoy.

Why would you want more migrants? Lack of dwarfpower is never a problem in DF.

Lack of dwarfpower is always a major problem if you're trying to run a metalworking industry that never has to stop production because of a lack of smelted metal.  A single metalcrafter, for example, keeps at least 5 dwarves perpetually busy making crafts, smelting the ore, and hauling away the three crafts made per job.  Making steel items takes 6 dwarves per finished product (4 smelting jobs (12 for breastplates), one hauling, one smithing).  If you have too many idlers in your fort, then just add some extra forges and enough support staff to keep them operating continuously.

Or you could make full sized squads for each weapon type and use up 60 dwarves that way.

Silver penetrates armour best, steel crits more (with blunt weapons). Against armoured enemies silver blunt weapons are always your best choice it would seem (Not sure how they work against Titans and FB due to body composition etc)

Steel warhammers tend to glance off of a bronze colussus, while steel spears and axes can chip parts and chop them off.

Dormitory = yes, but that's waaaaayyy too much food production.  He's going to end up with withered plants, full stockpiles, and barrels will be used for food as fast as they can be made and stockpiles designated.  potash fertilization is nice but completely unnecessary unless you're ready to specialize optimize your farming industry (not necessary).

Oh, it's definitely too much food.  In the last fort I was able to run before 34.07 started everything crashing constantly on me I had a stockpile of 3200 drinks and 1600 prepared meals from that setup.  That's when I turned hauling back on for all the food producers.  But for somebody who's having trouble with not enough food, it's a workable starting strategy with unskilled dwarves. It's also really tough to fill up a 30X30 food stockpile, and your plants will only wither if you turn off "All dwarves harvest".  You might as well have your children doing something useful, and deconstructing buildings and harvesting is all they can do.

I'd say the point of having skilled dwarves working on labours without quality modifiers is that they are much, much faster at it.

The only one I'm having trouble with is the constraint on cloth from pig tail thread. CLOTH//GRASS_TAIL_PIG seemed to work, but it wouldn't recognize the job. I've been using the generic cloth constraint, but I just had a tantrum episode since apparently my clothiers were only using plant cloth, so I've been trying to tighten this up.

You need to separately input the command job item-material 1 GRASS_TAIL_PIG[/end] while you have the relevant job highlighted in the farmer's workshop for the constraint to function.  Otherwise the workflow system can't find the job.

If you honestly expect that, you don't know Toady...

Well, hopefully he'll give control over the project up to somebody with actual programming skill at some point.  The whole thing obviously needs to be completely rewritten almost from the ground up.

The game can only add meaningful decisions to the game when your resources are limited, and as such, you must learn how best to triage your needs with what little resources you have.

That assumes that the goal of this project is to develop a game and not a sandbox.  Games are common, sandboxes are rare.  Rarity is valuable.  making dwarf fortress more of a game and less of a toy would destroy the whole reason it's interesting to play with.

Further, since the real-world time investment in running even a single year of a single fortress is tremendous, there is very little need for greater difficulty leading to more abandoned fortresses and wasted time.  Make a year of fortress activities happen in ten or fifteen minutes of real-time, instead of several hours, and then you might be able to simulate a ten-year fortress within a reasonable amount of leisure time instead of it taking several months in the real-world.