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Originally posted by Captain Xenon:
<STRONG>a good plan does not assume resources that are uncommon. what about those of us with no magma (except past the demons), no ice, and a wave of frogs before we get the fireballs? </STRONG>

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The lack of ice could be the only problem. Because if the frogs come out, they won't be able to get past the ice wall. Perhaps you could have some replaceable peasant or noble act as bait to lure them out of their pits. Once a SoF enters the chamber and gets near the frozen tile, it's bye-bye demons.

Or, if you can't spare your dwarves, build a stairwell upwards and once the demons are in place, complete construct the floor that tops it all off. This works best if the stairwell goes all the way up to the floor level from the lowest z-level and is placed directly next to the frozen tile. The main problem with this is that in order to do this, you'll need some fast dwarves.

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Originally posted by IronValley:
<STRONG>channels & drawbridges</STRONG>

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Demons fly and are able to destroy bridges, I believe. Even raised ones. So the atom-smasher won't work any more with demons.

[ May 20, 2008: Message edited by: Kidiri ]

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Originally posted by Kagus:
<STRONG>Heh.  That could lend itself to a whole new style of farming.  Just get a bunch of herbalists, set up a massive area with water-filled channels, and then just harvest the wild plants.</STRONG>

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Or you could just wait until you've got at least one of each and put up a 3 by 3 farm plot per crop and increase effectiveness.

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Originally posted by PTTG??:
<STRONG>

Goblin dragoon has not actually played DF for several months, it seems. Doors will not accept other locked doors as adjacent walls anymore. Floodgates and Bridges both work.</STRONG>

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PTTG?? has no been paying attention, it seems. Doors can be built between two other doors by constructing a wall in a tile next to the tile wherein you want to build the door. Then deconstruct the wall and you have a three-wide door.

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Originally posted by Boksi:
<STRONG>Diamond is brittle.</STRONG>

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It is the hardest known natural material. There are only four materials that are harder. I would hardly call it brittle.

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Originally posted by Goblin Dragoon 085:
<STRONG>Hmm, Treadmills sound interisting.
But instead of gobbos I suggest the ability use use any tame creature. The amount of power generated would depend on the creatures size/might or maybe even pet value and a dwarf with animal care would have to feed them regularly or they would pass out.</STRONG>

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Or any creature. Of course tame creatures can be chained to the treadmill and they have to work, but a stray dragon that just happens to walk around in one, should power it too. Perhaps captured goblins can also be chained and used. Which leads me to think. What would happen if you add the [PET]-token to goblins and kobolds? Or even the [TRAINABLE]-token? War-goblins fighting with it's own species?

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Originally posted by Dwarven.Gemologist:
<STRONG>If you ran out of logs, just grab the nearest captive goblin to use as fuel.
I can also envision a system of moving 'bridges' being suspended by cables and able to move vertically (like a huge elevator).
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Oh dear God, yes! I like this idea very much. Just imagine these possibilities. An elevator-fed arena, an easily accessible moat for all of the goodies inside, one or two central elevator shafts for quick access to the lower levels, a decent hauling system, wherein stones can be dumped by raising two ropes/chains two levels and the other only one. Both levels would be occupied by the elevator over it's complete length:

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