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wait wait wait wait, so you trade the good stuff away and leave crap for your dwarves? why do that? i end up trading the worst stuff away, which are mostly green glass furniture worth 100 each and i managed to buy the dwarven caravan. I supplement my crap with masterwork silver and steel serrated discs which are worth 17k and 45k each apiece undecorated if im a little short on allowed weight/crap. IMO prepared food isnt really worth trading, and if you're trading it you might as well just give the elves the tallow to eat and produce more food overall so you can have enough good non-tallow food to overfeed your fortress. I didnt really keep count, but last i checked about 95% of my dwarves were ecstatic with the remaining being mainly ones who detest common vermin like flies.

as for dumat, cutest lil dwarf i've ever read about, i'd wanna hug her if i could and rescue her from that hell (no offense lol, just going along with the story) and let her live in paradise at cherishedshades! (where only about 70% of the land animates the dead) though i think she might be miserable here too, for other reasons, or at least appalled and horrified.

Preparation? For what?!

That right there is actually horrifying. Poor goblins. They're not even allowed to die of old age.

for my collection of horribly tortured goblin leaders in my dinning room. Im trying to get a collection of one of each type of goblin weapon master, including their civilization leaders.

this fort is kinda tragic after thinking about it more, why the hell would the overseer force his dwarves to make fancy goods for export when not all of his dwarves even have their own room yet? in my current fort im busy outfitting each dwarve's rooms, be it peasant or legendary armorer, with masterwork beds, green glass cabinets, green glass doors, and green glass boxes (all masterworks). And exporting the exceptional and lower crap as my "golden goblets encrusted with gems".

I have a great engraver in training to becoming a legendary engraver so he can turn everyone's decent bedrooms into great or royal bedrooms. My dwarves also eat masterwork roasts, not tallow slop and stones are never hauled unless the stone stockpile has 3 wheelbarrows (i set unlink it until it has 3). There are 2 separate 2x2 stairways so there is almost no traffic jam.

The jails are rooms with a artifact chain or masterwork steel chain encrusted with crystal glass and studded with gold. that has 3 stockpile squares next to it as food, 3 as drink, 1 as masterwork bed, and 1 as masterwork chair. So they have everything they need (they dont need to actually reach the table to use it, just the chair), in addition to 2 masterwork statues beside the masterwork table for them to admire. Unhappy dwarves are also burrowed inside the jail rooms for rehabilitation until they feel better.

EDIT: for clarification purposes when i mentioned i had no jails in my first post, i have no jails ENABLED in my fort most of the time, and just let my unquestionably weak captain of the guard beat on dwarves with his featherwood training swords, jail time is wasted labor. I do have rooms i can set as jails right away though, if a particular dwarf is being violent and needs isolation.

EDIT2: this story makes me feel happy in the way i run my fort, as the starting 7 are treated no different than any other dwarves. (and in fact, i look down on them with contempt because they are all friends with each other, and are tantrum fodder; most of my other dwarves only have their spouse or have no one). In fact, of my starting 7, 6 of them are still just peasants, with 1 becoming one of my legendary miners. I neglected to become a barony to spare my dwarves the grief of additional mandates, and the life of a dwarf that would have became the baron; my mayor is chosen from the dwarf with the most easily crafted preference: barrels, which i need anyway for food storage in my fort.

Err is that how your monarch looked like?

Well I never got any mandates till now since my duke has no preferences for any items or furniture just the remaining stuff colour,shape,creature,food etc etc. So now this new monarch is going to be a pain...

wait what? if a dwarve has no preference for items, then they'll make no mandates? what if they have a preference for a particular material, but no items, would they still mandate items made from that material?

asking this cuz my original mayor (elected by my dwarves) only had material preferences. The current mayor was chosen by me, and rechosen after each of his terms for his liking of barrels (that i make anyway), but a mayor with no mandates would be awesome.

Why do my dwarfs insist on placing individual body parts into tombs, when we don't even have enough coffins for the piles of FULL dead bodies that are busy away haunting the fort?

i made dwarves NOT_LIVING during world generation so they will never appear as undead in necromancers' sieges, that should help if you are getting massive amounts of dwarven corpses due to those sieges. You should be able to keep coffin production up quite easily though, because those can be made from stone, wood, and glass and its usually easy to get alot of stone and sand for glass.

what if you want to be the capital of your civilization because your fort is truly the greatest of the world? and couldnt care less about the loss of the liason because your fort is completely self sufficient without crappy imported goods? but still do not want annoying mandates? Revolution time!

Quote from: Catsup on April 19, 2013, 09:54:04 am

modded them to lay a low number of eggs so i cant mass them, but most creatures in my modded worlds can reproduce. Dragons also grow up in 30 years or so, which is 3 times the lifespan of my typical fort.

Have you considered that there may be a possible causal relationship between those two facts?

no, i havent played df for that long yet, so i tend to abandon if i see my fort as too inefficient, too ugly, or just as something i dont like anymore. If i knew i could start over and make it way better, i would. I've reached the stopping point for that already, and my last fort was going to be my forever fort, but succumbed to a crash-on-load bug that kept crashing it, so i was forced to abandon. Theoretically if i didnt abandon anything, i think i would have a fort that can last indefinitely considering i get rid of all tantrum spiral fuel in advance; have lockdown systems in place; and enough food production and accommodations to sustain a fort without a population cap.

Quote from: AlmightyOne on April 20, 2013, 12:39:50 am

Hey thanks!It's so obvious they are in the lake which is 1 level above a fudging magma sea. All I need is one pump that too!

Coming up next: A thread asking for help on how to de-magmify a cavern layer .

i think i know a way, just channel down to the magma sea and make sure to channel out the last tile from the side. Then build a magma safe grate over it. If you're cavern is already full of magma and you cant go to channel the surface tile, then im sure theres a exploitish method with retracting bridges that lets you channel from below. Otherwise a controlled cave-in on a piece of single floor can be used cause a hole to appear.