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It effects relations negatively, but the Elves never do anything about it, except take less crap with them next year. Humans might actually siege you if you seize enough goods.

However, since you offered them a wooden bin before killing them, it's much worse, because they actually care more about their trees than their kin. I'm not sure exactly how bad the relations have to be to start a siege, but doing that a couple times ought to cause one.

Making the bolts can also double as mood manipulation fodder, to get all those fishery workers up to novice in weaponsmithng, if your ok with semi cheaty stuff like that.

The day when dwarves actually try to commit crimes, instead of just getting smacked around by a hammerer for taking the wrong craft to the depot, will be a very bad day.

Don't even have to seize it, you could, ya know, legit trade for it, or something equally crazy like that.

Well....that sucks. Throattomes has been standing for nearly twenty years, and it still hasn't earned a single legendary warrior......seriously, what's it take to train these guys?

Live training on captured goblins is the least exploity way I can think of to get quick legendaries, although I have gotten a few axelords just by squads of three/minimum two training all day every day for about four or five years.

On the topic of your numbers being insignificant, compared to goblin hordes, the seigers are randomly generated (at least the rank and file are) so they aren't really accurate of the numbers a fortress would actually contain. Also, legendary warriors are capable of fighting off entire goblin seiges by themself, so a squad or two of them could easily take the 500 or so gobbos that are usually found in legends mode defending a fortress.

Keep in mind, even if your in range of a tower, other enemies will still attack you. Even more so if the undead maul the traders. You can't make your defenses solely for the undead, 'cause then the trap avoiding mega beasts that can fling poison at your marksdwarves who aren't hiding behind fortifications because you didn't think you needed them will slaughter you. Then, when you kill it, a necromancer will raise it from the dead.

I speak from personal experience.

If you have dfhack installed (say, as part of the LNP), you want the "Startdwarf.rb" script, though it looks like it only increases the number, rather than allowing you to start with less than 7.

Also, I'm not actually sure *how* to use it, I just know it's there.

Of course, having too many dwarves is easily remedied, especially if your embarking near a volcano.

I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE!

Sorry, I had to do that at least once in this forum.

If possible could we keep this vanilla? I like vanilla DF.

As for starting location, I'd like somewhere that challenges and limits our resourcess, but isn't trying to kill us at every turn. A savage biome desert would be nice, for example. Or Savage Ocean, anything Savage would be fun!

I'd like to keep raw changes to a minimum also, I'm fine with minute details but please don't overhaul creatures. No changes if possible.

I agree with all of this. Could I be dorfed as ShadowHammer (a weaponsmith or hammerdwarf) and overseer'd as well?

Savage embarks are the funnest, especially when there is a giant wolverine tearing the throats out of all your migrants.