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General Discussion / Re: A really bad roommate. A really awesome story.
« on: April 29, 2009, 10:36:09 am »
well, he did get 8000 bucks at the end...dunno what for exactly
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Play With Your Buddies / Re: Lets play... Tropico? (Already in progress)
« on: April 29, 2009, 10:22:30 am »
I don't know what can be done and what not in this game, but if possible, dig for oil
oil for the oil god
oil for the oil god
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General Discussion / Re: A really bad roommate. A really awesome story.
« on: April 29, 2009, 10:20:25 am »
sadly the end was so anti-climatic
this dungeon needed some death-traps and a boss-fight
this dungeon needed some death-traps and a boss-fight
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General Discussion / Re: A really bad roommate. A really awesome story.
« on: April 29, 2009, 09:17:47 am »
wait, people like this actually exist ?
oh boy
homicide seems like a legitimate answer
oh boy
homicide seems like a legitimate answer
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General Discussion / Re: The thread that isn't the Athiesm Thread
« on: April 29, 2009, 09:06:42 am »
you don't seem to be understanding my main point
both of them were rightfully offended
let it word me differently
both of them were wrong
the double standard is that everyone wants to blame the religious girl, and only the religious girl, which is not fair
one has to acknowledge that neither side has acted in a proper way, all else is a very selective view
the best outcomes would have been, after being called a heathen and being told to respect her religion, he shouldn't have started argueing "but atheism is my religion, respect it"
simply because no one so far said anything against atheism, just against him being intolerant towards her faith
the correct defence would have been. "I am not talking about the praying, just about the volume."
anyway, Akroma out
I don't respect you guys enough to keep trying.
both of them were rightfully offended
let it word me differently
both of them were wrong
the double standard is that everyone wants to blame the religious girl, and only the religious girl, which is not fair
one has to acknowledge that neither side has acted in a proper way, all else is a very selective view
the best outcomes would have been, after being called a heathen and being told to respect her religion, he shouldn't have started argueing "but atheism is my religion, respect it"
simply because no one so far said anything against atheism, just against him being intolerant towards her faith
the correct defence would have been. "I am not talking about the praying, just about the volume."
anyway, Akroma out
I don't respect you guys enough to keep trying.
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General Discussion / Re: The hell does Pantheism even mean?!
« on: April 29, 2009, 07:50:21 am »Seems like I always heard it just meant belief in *many* gods, rather than just one. So, the ancient Greeks, Egyptians, etc. would have been pantheistic.You are confusing it with polytheistic.
The 'god is everything' version I hadn't heard before, but I'll bow to the almighty dictionary here.
isn't polytheism just the belief in more than one god, as opposed to monotheism ?
it doesn't belief that you belief in every god, just that you belief in many gods, for instance the hindu-gods
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General Discussion / Re: The thread that isn't the Athiesm Thread
« on: April 29, 2009, 07:48:23 am »however sending Yanlin out because he was disruptive is okayPraying was disrupting his study... but that's okay? Why is it necessary to carry out prayer in class?
he WAS being disruptive
I mean, even if his arguement was justified, it is still unecessary to carry it out during class
he himself said he wanted to learn
so carrying out a religious arguement with the whole class IS disruptive, isn't it ?
the teacher had the right to diffuse the situation before it detoriated, and did soI don't even see why the atheist was offended in the first place
I mean, someone praying out loud
holy shit, that is offensive !
I just started my own religion. It has it's own religious ceremonies for luck and strength in various situations.
This ceremony involves putting on a gas mask, setting off a mustard gas charge and dancing around the room chanting to the all powerful tin can of energy for luck. It's been proven to effectively boost it's followers test scores above the average and should be taking up adoption all over the world.
Since this is just a ceremony I do to boost my luck in test taking, and it's a part of my religion, it should be accepted and tolerated by everyone else. Nobody will be able to ask me to stop, or do it without dancing and mustard gas because without those two things, it can't really work. (IMHO) I should be given my 5 minutes by everyone else, no questions asked.
first of all, no, it's not OK, but gee I wonder who of them made the bigger ruckus
also, if she sent out the girl instead, the arguement would not have ended, wouldn't it ?
sending Yanlin out was the fastest and most effective way to calm the class down.
Objectively speaking, it was a better decision to send him out.
If she send out the praying girl even before yanlin started acting up, chances are the teacher would have started an arguement that would have costed him his job, so here we are.
also, you are making out of proportion comparisons. the girl didn't put anyone life in danger by praying, now did she ?
once again I have to say that not every religious person is connected to the crusades
this is on a personal level
both sides had the right to be offended, and both sides acted out of proportion
the point is that yanlin was inconsiderate
especially if he is in such a religious environment, he should think before acting
which is a good advice to most situations btw
is it really worth it to interrupt her selfish behaviour with even more selfish behaviour ?
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General Discussion / Re: The hell does Pantheism even mean?!
« on: April 29, 2009, 07:33:57 am »
you see, these are not mutualy exclusive
most discussions arise from a question
and even so, if he has a question and chose this forum as the place to voice it, then so be it
no point in being rude
most discussions arise from a question
and even so, if he has a question and chose this forum as the place to voice it, then so be it
no point in being rude
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General Discussion / Re: The hell does Pantheism even mean?!
« on: April 29, 2009, 07:26:40 am »Pan means all. Theism means belief. (Faith, something like that.)
Basically means they believe in every religion? Believe in everything? God is everything? Everything is god? Everyone is god? Paganism in a fancier word?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!
Do you know how to use a dictionary?
Or wikipedia?
Or do you have to ask a random forum to help you find out the definition of a word?
Here, I'm just going to quote the opening paragraph in the Wikipedia article for you, since you can't seem to make it there yourself:QuotePantheism (Greek: πάν (pan) = all and θεός (theos) = God, literally "God is all" -ism) is the view that everything is part of an all-encompassing immanent God. In pantheism the Universe (Nature) and God are equivalent. More detailed definitions tend to emphasize the idea that God is better understood as an abstract principle representing natural law, existence, and the Universe (the sum total of all that is, was, and shall be) than an anthropomorphic entity.
dude, the answer "wiki it" is not what he came here for
in fact, coming to a forum to ask about something you don't understand seems like a good thing to do
pantheism is an interesting topic, and asking on a forum about it could spark an interesting discussion
afterall a forum is a place to discuss topics, is it not ?
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General Discussion / Re: The thread that isn't the Athiesm Thread
« on: April 29, 2009, 07:19:36 am »if someone was wearing a REALLY ugly Tshirt, so ugly that it distracted the hell out of you, you still have no right to tell that person to take off that Tshirthttp://www.theurbangrind.net/?p=3053
it's the kind of clothes he likes, and you are a douchebag if you can't respect his tastes
A boy was sent home for wearing an Anti-Obama t-shirt. Where's the tolerance to his opinion? He wore a t-shirt that could be read by anyone, as her prayer could be heard by anyone. The kid was suspended from school and this girl praying is supported?
suspending that kid from school because of a T-shirt is not justified, everyone has the right to have his own political believes
however sending Yanlin out because he was disruptive is okay
he WAS being disruptive
I mean, even if his arguement was justified, it is still unecessary to carry it out during class
he himself said he wanted to learn
so carrying out a religious arguement with the whole class IS disruptive, isn't it ?
the teacher had the right to diffuse the situation before it detoriated, and did so
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General Discussion / Re: The thread that isn't the Athiesm Thread
« on: April 29, 2009, 07:16:24 am »I think that it depends on how forcefully Yanlin asked her to stop. I mean, if it was similar to this scenarioAccording to Akroma, it shouldn't matter how it was said. They both mean the same thing.
Yanlin: Could you please stop that, it's difficult to concentrate
Girl: Heathen!
then the girl is in the wrong. If it's like this scenario
Yanlin: Shut up, please
Girl: Heathen!
Then Yanlin had it coming. How did you say it, Yanlin?
If someone called a homosexual person a fag, it has a different connotation, but according to Akroma it doesn't matter (slang, derogatory, or not)
connotations are for those that actually care
I mean hey, it's some religious idiot, talking to the invisible sky magician because she can't solve her own problems
if you actually care what a person like that thinks about the state of your soul, then so be it, you deserve feeling offended, but you sure as hell have no right to think of yourself as superior to that person
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General Discussion / Re: The thread that isn't the Athiesm Thread
« on: April 29, 2009, 07:05:17 am »
I don't even see why the atheist was offended in the first place
I mean, someone praying out loud
holy shit, that is offensive !
I mean, even if the volume was indeed distracting, then learn to concentrate better
she is not praying loudly because she wants to disturb you
she is praying loudly because she is genuinely worried about the results of the test
if you are that aggressive that you can't even wait for 5 minutes until she finished her prayer and continue learning afterwards, or learn a bit more at home, then for fucks sake, ou are the person who started the arguement, for invalid and egoistic reasons
intoleranz will be met with intoleranz, and rightfully so
I mean, if someone told a black person to stop being a nigger, you wouldn't agree with that person either
okay, maybe the example is a bit exxagerated, so for the sake of it being constructive
if someone was wearing a REALLY ugly Tshirt, so ugly that it distracted the hell out of you, you still have no right to tell that person to take off that Tshirt
it's the kind of clothes he likes, and you are a douchebag if you can't respect his tastes
I mean, someone praying out loud
holy shit, that is offensive !
I mean, even if the volume was indeed distracting, then learn to concentrate better
she is not praying loudly because she wants to disturb you
she is praying loudly because she is genuinely worried about the results of the test
if you are that aggressive that you can't even wait for 5 minutes until she finished her prayer and continue learning afterwards, or learn a bit more at home, then for fucks sake, ou are the person who started the arguement, for invalid and egoistic reasons
intoleranz will be met with intoleranz, and rightfully so
I mean, if someone told a black person to stop being a nigger, you wouldn't agree with that person either
okay, maybe the example is a bit exxagerated, so for the sake of it being constructive
if someone was wearing a REALLY ugly Tshirt, so ugly that it distracted the hell out of you, you still have no right to tell that person to take off that Tshirt
it's the kind of clothes he likes, and you are a douchebag if you can't respect his tastes
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General Discussion / Re: The thread that isn't the Athiesm Thread
« on: April 29, 2009, 06:54:49 am »
not if the atheist started it
also, they called you a heathen, which shouldn't be offensive to you
while the atheist openly called out to her to stop practising her faith
I mean, he knew he had it coming the moment he started it
also, they called you a heathen, which shouldn't be offensive to you
while the atheist openly called out to her to stop practising her faith
I mean, he knew he had it coming the moment he started it
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General Discussion / Re: The hell does Pantheism even mean?!
« on: April 29, 2009, 06:44:01 am »That's pantheism? I guess I never actually knew what it meant. I could swear I heard it explained somewhere as worship (or at least acknowledgement) of all gods.no, that's what they call indecisive freeloader, or opportunist
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General Discussion / Re: The thread that isn't the Athiesm Thread
« on: April 29, 2009, 06:43:15 am »
again, just show supremacy by toleranz
I mean, the deffinition of heathen is some one who believes in the wrong god, or in no god at all, right ?
so hey, calling him a heathen is just on spot, and not even offensive (even if it is meant as offensive)
I've had people throwing dozens of slang-terms for a homosexual at me
why should I be offended by that, it's true, I fell down the faggot-tree and hit every single branch
when they call me a rugmuncher, hell yeah, that's what I do, munching rugs, which I could do that more often
in the same way, if they call you a non-believer, hell yeah, that's what you are, a non-believer. If they say you will go to hell, they are either right, or they are wrong and you know they are, because there is no hell and nothing to worry about
I mean, the deffinition of heathen is some one who believes in the wrong god, or in no god at all, right ?
so hey, calling him a heathen is just on spot, and not even offensive (even if it is meant as offensive)
I've had people throwing dozens of slang-terms for a homosexual at me
why should I be offended by that, it's true, I fell down the faggot-tree and hit every single branch
when they call me a rugmuncher, hell yeah, that's what I do, munching rugs, which I could do that more often
in the same way, if they call you a non-believer, hell yeah, that's what you are, a non-believer. If they say you will go to hell, they are either right, or they are wrong and you know they are, because there is no hell and nothing to worry about