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okay, a longer explanation


first of all, don't mix it up with animism, which is the core of nature-religions that states that some things, like trees, are filled with spirits and stuff


it comes from the greek word "pan" which means "everything"


in essence, it means that everything, from lifeless rocks, over animals, to humans, are part of what god is

the keyword is harmony

the entirety of nature exists in harmony with each other, take one thing of it away, and the balance will crumble

the perfect harmony of nature is what can be conceived as true divinity



it's no religion in a traditional sense, but rather a religious philosophy

Quote from: Jackrabbit on April 29, 2009, 04:57:22 am

Holy shit this girl is a prick. And I'm christian

Just her? Try the entire bloody school. Bunch of hypocrites.

they might be hypocrites, but if you keep nagging, trying to shut them up when they are praying, you are not exactly a beacon of toleranz either

Quote from: Akroma on April 28, 2009, 03:29:34 pm

I dislike militant atheists

I mean, sure they think they are right, and that everyone who is not an atheist is an idiot with imaginary friends

but do they have to rub it into every religious person they see ?

Try to look at it from the other side for a second.  If you dislike "militant" atheists, do you condone shoving religion down atheists on a daily basis?
I pull a dollar out of my pocket right now and it has "God" on it.
I sit down to eat at family get-togethers and am asked to bow my head and give thanks for my food.
I was asked to be "Godfather" to my nieces.
I drive down the road and I see license plates that say CUNHVN and GZUSLVS.
I was constantly told that someone is praying for me when I got sick.
The Pledge of Allegiance had "Under God" added to it in the 50s.
I pull up to an intersection and am asked to donate to a plastic bucket for ____ Church.
I'm now being asked (and I don't know how it's legal) to pay land taxes to pay for education in a Catholic School that teaches kids something I don't believe.
How many kids don't believe, but are forced by their parents into training?  (If there were a God, why do children need to be taught about God... shouldn't they "just know"?)
George Dubya would proclaim "his creator" in just about every speech he gave.
If I sneeze:  "Bless you!"
Every Christmas/Easter everyone is reminded that it was religion that the season was for no matter what it could be about (Family, sharing, catching up, relaxing)
Is it okay for a church to put up a billboard that says: "Got God?" but it's wrong for Atheists to put up a billboard?

Why should I have to hide my belief when "the other side" doesn't?

Shall I go on?

Who's being militant about religion?  I'm just trying to live my life without being preached to every time I pay for lunch.  I suggest you look to yourself and those that you consort with before telling me who is being militant.

hurr durr, they did it first, hurr durr


try to show your supremacy by dignified silence


I mean, sure thing, religion as a whole is a very negativ thing
but on a personal level, the vast majority of religious people are neither related to the crusades, nor to any modern bullshit that zealots are pulling

leave them alone

if you have to vent your frustration, beat up a hooker or something

I just saw the zeitgeist movie a few days ago


sure enough I agree with the first part
the minimal reserve system is flawed to no end, and the world would probably be better off with a system that is more thought out


however I do not agree with the venus project
they thing that just because there is no money anymore there is suddenly no more crime ?
how can ANYONE look at humanity and be THAT optimistic ?

there are more than enough crimes that have no monetary reasons behind them

take murder for example
or rape


also the idea that the few jobs that are not done by maschines will be done by voluntaries just because they like to do that is too optimistic for me as well



however the major flaw in this comes from the thought that everyone will be happy in a society that is ruled by a group of people that organizes resources
if, like he said, everyone could have everything they want, then even the enormous amounts of resources we do have won't do

imagine if everyone wants to live on a palace on an island

having everyone have whatever they want is just not feasible, and the regulators will have to controle that

that results in dissastisfaction, and soon the system is just as corrupt




the venus project simply adds highly developed technology to communism, calls it entirely new idea and calls it utopia


hey, communism sounded pretty good as well, when it was still just an idea in the heads of a few people


in practise, this will be no venus project, but a pluto project
because a true utopia is surely not found anywhere on a planet

point in case : after the priacy deed is done, I have a full version of the programm


there is no reason whatsoever to buy a programm I already have

both of you shut up, for flamewars go to VN

it's a good thing that online poll is not representative

who knows how the world might be if moot actually had significant influence on it ?