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Quote from: Rolan7 on July 06, 2015, 06:54:16 pm

I actually forgot that I could leave Lonesome Road because it felt particularly silly to backtrack from there.

How so? In addition to not having a contrived excuse for not being able to come and go freely, it's also explicitly a closer location.

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ALSO, what's the deal with not being able to bring companions with us to the DLC locations? We didn't even get a proper contrived excuse for that rule.

Yeah, that "no companions" really bothered me as well. There's no reason why the Courier couldn't take one of his companions to the Divide, Sierra Madre or New Canan. The only one I sorta understand is the big MT with the whole "This satellite teleports you and only you there". But that concession leaves the gates open for similar contrived explanations for the other DLCs (hey, maybe that caravan company didn't want to contract more than one person, maybe Ulysses wanted the Courier to come alone and not bring the cops or this Republic gets it, and maybe Veronica just stood there and watched me get paralyzed by the radio and then nicked all my caps to go have a wild night out in Vegas and had a Hangover-tier adventure in trying to get the money back before I came back)


The reason why it felt silly to leave the Divide before the end is mostly due to the way the DLC is structured, you can see the developers intended the player to play through it in one go, what with the way the plot is fed to you.

I actually found Lonesome Road to be the most dissapointing DLC of them all. Sure, the plot is nice and worldbuildy, but the whole affair feels too much like a standard FPS, focusing way too much on combat and combat-related gimmicks (Hey, blow up these here nukes to blow up enemies and progress!). Also the tunnelers were far too overpowered for my tastes.

Dead Money could said to have similar faults, but I felt the whole thing had a much more Bioshock-y feel to it and I really liked the atmosphere. It was, for me at least, unplayable with "hardcore" mode turned on because my goddamn companions kept dying and then I'd die as well and god damn it that whole affair was annoying. Also the Ghost People were interesting fluff-wise but were kinda boring as enemies after the first three.


Y'know, now that I think about it, all the DLC had one thing in common, they all had stupidly overpowered enemies, the roboscorpions, the ghost people, the tunnelers, and a buncha tribals capable of taking out a person in full T-45d power armor.

Chauchat or riot. 


Edit: found a better picture.

Did you not read the article you linked? "No plans" is doubletalk for "we're keeping that in our hand until the time is right."

Oh, I did read the article, I just thought it was funny is all

Maybe I should've put it into mockquotes.

The only thing about the weapons presentation that bothered me is that apparently Bethesda does not know the difference between "Assault Rifle" and "WW1 Machine Gun".

What I really miss about Fallout 3 is that traditional Fallout ending in which you learn about the fates of the people and the places you visited and met. It really made the games feel bigger to me and FO3 didn't have it.

New Vegas did tho. I hope FO4 has it also.

A fusion generator and some seeds doesn't let you build a big damn city though. That takes a ton of material, time, labor, and heavy construction equipment. More than could reasonably stored in a vault, in my opinion.

Dunno, a fusion generator is an immense source of power which you can use to power all sorts of machinery and lighting. Likewise, having seeds that are rad and everything-proof makes your farming very effective at producing food.

As for the manual labour, a 1000 work-ready people with effective leadership and who are well-supplied is pretty much a godsend if you're trying to set up a society from scratch. You could have a fully functioning and defensible settlement within a month. Provided you stay near your vault, that is.

Vault-tec experiments notwithstanding, vaults would pretty much foolproof a way of establishing a civilization after the end of the current one.

This seem's as good an explanation as any
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskScienceFiction/comments/1f965i/fallout_where_does_all_of_this_ammo_and_food_come/ca98oc2

These are good reasons, but my main problem is that all of these are assumptions rather than things actually presented to us in the game.

Like I said, this is a pet peeve of mine. I like the world to at least have the basics covered.

It still makes no sense that nobody seems to be producing food 

Given that Fallout 3 and NV had a large open world and Bethesda seems to like doing those, I find it extremely unlikely.

Wasteland 2 is where it's at if you want Fallout 1 style travel.