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lost my bestower trying to complete a lowsec mission. i returned to Amarr to buy a replacement but decided instead to get on the magnate and try making a living in Stain. the trek wasnt as hard as i initially thought, TAPI (TEST) had taken control of most of Catch and i had to temporary logoff in one system due to a gatecamp. there were still some of them when i finally got close to the gates of Stain (systems changed sov to BRAVE but were mostly unoccupied).

its interesting to see that there wasnt a single bubble up from sov null to NPC null. only the initial gatecamp with a Hictor (or a Dictor, didnt even take the time to look) had me rushing to back to gate. i was also expecting Stain to be a busy place but it ended being a ghost town, well, there were some others in local but i never saw someone near station or trying to hunt me down.

i ran missions for 2 L1 distribution agents at the same time and got 1.1 standing with True Creations. made roughly 1500 LP for them but honestly, the payout looks really bad. i was expecting more from these nullsec NPC corps. no wonder people prefer to rat and do DED sites, the payouts are horrible unless you do Security which is probably way more of a magnet for ganks.

so yeah, i finished checking on the L2 agent to see if he had some kind of increase in payout, i didnt really see why bothering. so i made my way back to High sec, returned to Amarr only with some overheated mids (i wasnt taking chances to get blapped when crossing TAPI gatecamps), now i have to think what to do next.

all in all i could live try to make a living in Stain (or even Venal) but i just dont see the money, cant even grasp how people actually makes a living in these regions or otherwise i would be seeing big subcaps moving around in the systems. at best i saw a Gila in the D-Scan.

i could move my Sigil there (but it would probably die) and farm up to L3s but it looks like the payouts arent event consistent with the security lvl of the region. most wiki guides say that security L3s are slightly better than L4s in high sec, but that doesnt seem to extrapolate to Mining or Distribution.

so that's it, i made a daytrip to NPC Null and didnt found the pot with gold. i'll probably just keep going in High Sec for now, there's still standings to grind with the factions i wanted.

ran some mission today, not much, bu something. rating 7.7 standing with Hedion and rank 315 in Project Discovery. didnt feel like keeping up today, but perhaps later in the week.

the most important thing is that im short of some hours before finishing the last week long armor skill, so i started putting the shield ones. will have to check later to see if i can add more as queue gets cleaned. i've bought and injected Shield Compensation but im still missing the resistance specific ones. will have to wait until i've learned the requirements.

a bit necro but this is from official news.

a new gameplay trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUcXYxILnF8&feature=youtu.be

I mean we all know how this is gonna go.

Self-buffs, passive buffs, point & click abilities removed and replaced with skillshots that have weirdly shaped AoEs/hitboxes, random secondary effects, and tertiary conditional buffs/debuffs.

Kinda curious what they're going to do to Ez, considering that he already has three skillshots. Probably make his E have a second effect, change 1+ of the skillshots to have a strange path and another effect, and add complexity to his passive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnVMAC6R5wk

hability info:

he didnt change much honestly.

in other champion discussion, i thought Evelynn was broken. played a blind pick with her yesterday and i got to execute some people but most of the time it feels like Q doesnt do any damage. almost like you have to rely solely on E to gut people. perhaps i dont know how to properly set up the charming thing but im pretty sure i should burst down people when having a good amount of kills with just the minimal combo of WEQ or something like that, not spend all of it then press R hoping they will die.

that or perhaps she's an early game champion and its supposed to fall off late in the match, i mean, i got a double kill just by pressing R at some point but later on i was just roaming and helping pull minions because everyone could survive the damage i was dishing even in 1v1. would like to point i didnt buy penetration at the time was running jungle item, sorc boots and the rest was a RoA and Zhonya, i felt her too squishy compared to say, Shaco and thought on investing on extra health rather than going Void Staff as a starter. perhaps that was the reason?

i tried to step up my map making habilities with some Photoshop tutorials. its an improvement over the stuff i was making in Illustrator but there's so much stuff i couldnt figure out in the guides that things like Ice Caps, Rivers, proper mountain ranges and ocean geography are missing. not to mention i may have fucked up with the biome distribution.

need to figure out a proper size for a world map as everything looks very crowded too. something i could apply later to make some normals and put in a 3D model for game dev experimentations.

Rank 300 in Project Discovery.

today was more standing grind. the ironic part is that i just reached close to 7,5. not much of an achievement, i also made a miscalculation when getting a lowsec run and entered to the system right for an ambush between a Deimos, Ishtar and Harbinger. i had to cancel the mission but didnt suffer real loss of standing with factions, only a reduction in corp and agent which is tolerable.

i sold an implant with the LP i had scrapped and got to buy a new Bestower with a better fit while still being somewhat ISK positive. returned, recovered the standing loss with the corp and agent and kept going at it. i also did some Emperor Family runs while waiting for the "Autism Cartel" guys to end the lowsec camp.

currently getting to 20K LP after getting down to 2K due to that obstacle. there's still a long way to go but if i can keep farming like this i could afford another 120 million implant sell. there's also a 200+ million command link but i have to buy the 2 components first instead of just spending money. it could be worth trying tho.

as for skills, well, Energy Grid Upgrades IV is the next on the list, then its Electronic Upgrades. im gonna tackle tose 2-3 days skills until there's only Energy and Electronics V which take like 2 weeks each. they are very important because of the powergrid/cap and sensor/cpu modules that come from them. everything else is just side stuff like module damage reduction when heating or energy vamps/transfers or smartbombs which i barely use.

this will probably take up to September whole so i guess Armor wont be touched until October. in the case that i dont activate the Omega to precisely skip this shit (allthought with only 30 days worth of sped up training i dont think i'll finish the essentials in time).

outside of that it seems there's no standing loss from running the Abyss. or that's what i got from asking to someone that does them. guy said he had standing 0.0 with Drifters, Triglavs and Rogue Drones which means apparently, that these values are static and dont get lower than that. the enigma now is if this is kept for other values as i have 0,8 positive standing with each of those (and other factions). there's still a long way before getting on a cruiser properly fitted for this so not much of a deal for now.

Would a probe launcher fit instead of the gun?

i chose the 125mm because it was the only autocannon turret that could fit and swap with the regular probe launcher. this fit isnt designed to scan people down (unless you made so sacrifices in tank and the like). so yeah, you can just swap the turret for probing whenever needed.

i'd also like to point that the Arbalest launchers and Compact Web were a suggestion from the chat because i originally planned to have everything in T2 for better performance (save for the AB, cause Alpha limitations). i even thought of adding Augmented Drones but those seem to be hella expensive.

[Magnate, "Rogue Archaeologist"]

Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Small Armor Repairer II

Warp Scrambler II
1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Small Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Core Probe Launcher I

Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x3
Hobgoblin II x5


Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket x90

this is an active tanked fit. the main limitations are hitpoints (438 armor at full V) and that you loose the web, on the other side of things this can be used for PvE (i think) and is cap stable (40-50% depending on whether you need Scram or not).

the damage potential is a flat 100 DPS with 350 volley (unheated). if you dont want to swap the probes this is the best DPS you can get, unless:

[Magnate, "Rogue Archaeologist"]

Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Extender II

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Core Probe Launcher I

Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Hobgoblin II x3
Hobgoblin II x5


Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket x90

this shield tanked version can pull 117 DPS (127 heated) but you can only use it for PvE because no tackle. passive regen is 24,2 not much for a passive tanked ship of course but its the most you can get so have to make sure not to pull on heavy fire for too long. the PG is also quite tight on this fit so no way to add the Autocannon here for extra damage.

the best i could build for this case would be:

[Magnate, "Rogue Archaeologist"]

Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
200mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S

Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


Hobgoblin II x3
Hobgoblin II x5

this one ups DPS to 128 unheated by adding a 200mm Autocannon II, there's different things you can do with it. one is replace the Rigor with an Optimal Range rig for the gun, the other is to replace it with another current router and upgrade the armor plate to T2 to increase EHP up to 4.8K, you can still swap the gun for a Probe Launcher and perhap if you want to invest you could take out the Web and put a Ligature/Zeugma Analyzer to be able to do the job without having to swap the Scram.

i also added T2 Web because well, its not like im struggling with CPU and Powergrid can be covered with just some slight changes. im gonna keep this one as the top fit for now.

i dont know much about that, its just so i dont have to grind COSMOS missions or stuff like that to be able to talk with their agents and get higher ones because i got -2 and below standing due to mindless ratting or something like that.