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before you select a building the cursor is not active ingame. Even if I force it to display a cursor in that mode, moving it won't scroll the map. In that mode you have to right click on the map edges to scroll, just like in default view.  ... The burrows shouldn't have been displaying a cursor until you go into burrow designation mode.

Derp.  I don't even know where this came from, mouse fortress behaves in exactly the same way.  /facepalm

I've also got rid of the extra "etrack" command, now cursor tracking is enabled in all modes with "mousequery track enable".

Nice - this does make a little more sense. 


I'd call this feature-complete now, on the basis that it gives the same degree of mouse support as mouse fortress (more stable, more informative, less menus) - but if you're still taking feature requests I'm happy to make suggestions.  OTOH, do whatever you want and I'll be just as happy. 

1) Edge-scrolling without a cursor could be pretty cool, and a separate mode for this to avoid potentially annoying behavior would be useful. 

2) If live view could be made to work when unpaused, that would be awesome - I kinda miss it when I'm watching all the dorfs scurrying around. 

Quote from: PeridexisErrant on May 19, 2013, 11:14:12 pm

to watch gamelog.txt soundsense expects to have been installed in a subdirectory

If you are including it on LNP, you can pre-edit path to gamelox.txt in config yourself - just use relative path. I think that vanilla LNP does it. Unless user does the renaming, it should work regardless of how whole bundle is relocated.

I googled relative paths, and after some experimentation changed
<gamelog encoding="Cp850" path="../gamelog.txt"/>to
<gamelog path="..\..\..\Dwarf Fortress 0.34.11/gamelog.txt" />
Maybe, given that the LNP gets used by newbs, this should be the default - or even better enable checks to multiple locations. 

For the sake of Isoworld and Legends Viewer particularly, a single option to dump everything that can be exported into, say "region1-exports" in the main directory would be awesome. 

Please do this - it would make using DF to create world-scale stories so much less painful. 

Nice!  soundSense is one of the utilities I would hate to play without - so of course it's in my extended LNP - but this is the first time I've manually updated it instead of getting a pack which included it already, and while I was testing the setup for my expanded LNP I thought of two potential improvements for newbies.  Sorry if this is a pain, but I tend to focus on the things that stop people getting into the game, which is basically either the learning cliff, or the amount of tweaking required to get everything beyond the game to work. 

First, to watch gamelog.txt soundsense expects to have been installed in a subdirectory - is it possible to add another check before asking for user input, from the default LNP install location in the utilities folder?  Everyone with the LNP and a long file path would love this, and I would guess more people use it installed there than in the main directory.  As it is, it triggers a window asking to navigate to gamelog.txt in DF directory, which happens every time you change a folder name / move the package / update something / etc - it just seems like an artifact from an earlier and less polished version.  This also looks scary to a newb, as it reopens that window if you try to close it with soundSense open. 

Second, is it possible to make the autoUpdate actually automatic?  While I'm cautious of starting a ~300MB download by surprise, you could pop up a dialogue box to prompt a download in two circumstances: 
1) packs folder is empty (or smaller than 50MB, etc), in which case prompt for a full download, or
2) more than [some amount of time] since last check - and then prompt and maybe an option to silently get updates below a certain size, or offer a popup above that size.  At present, you have to manually check if new sounds are available in order to get them, and this is not great for new or casual players. 

Are those two ideas doable, or way more trouble than they're worth?  And thanks for the utility - I definitely don't want to come across as critical, since I love it personally and only ask for the sake of newbies. 

Beautiful.  Mouse fortress is now dead to me. 

2b) edge scrolling in all contexts with a cursor, such as building before choosing what to build, placing stockpiles, zones, burrows, etc. 

The aim is to never use the keyboard to move the cursor again (except when unpaused, because I assume that would be way more difficult to implement) - its getting closer, but not quite there yet. 

OTOH, mousequery is already the definitive best mouse utility there is.  :-)

Contents:

Core:
 - Dwarf Fortress 0.47.05
 - PyLNP 0.14d

DFHack 0.47.05-r7:  (includes Stonesense)
 - TwbT 0.47.05-r7

Utilities:
 - Announcement Window v1.2b
 - Armok Vision v0.21.0
 - DF Story Maker 1.0
 - Dorven Realms R1
 - Dwarf Mockup 1.2.0
 - Dwarf Portrait v2.1.0
 - Dwarf Therapist v41.2.4
 - Isoworld 2.1
 - Legends Browser 1.19.2
 - Legends Browser 2 2.0.2
 - Legends Viewer 1.20.08
 - PerfectWorld 1.9
 - Picturefort 2.1
 - Quickfort 2.1.0
 - SoundCenSe 1.4.4
 - Soundsense 2016-1
 - Soundsense RS v1.5.1
 - World Viewer 2.5.0

Graphics:
 - ASCII
 - CLA
 - DungeonSet
 - GemSet
 - Ironhand
 - Mayday
 - Obsidian
 - Phoebus
 - Spacefox
 - Vettlingr


Recent changelogs:

0.47.05-r11
 - updated PyLNP to 0.14d, fixing blank DFHack window

0.47.05-r10
 - PyLNP fix for Windows Vista and 7 (no change for Windows 8 or later)

0.47.05-r09
 - updated DFHack to 0.47.05-r7
 - updated TwbT to 0.47.05-r7 (unofficial build by thurin)
 - updated Legends Browser 2 to v2.0.2
 - updated Dwarf Therapist to v41.2.4
 - updated PyLNP to 0.14c
 - moved files around for the nice new DFHack config system

0.47.05-r08
 - updated DFHack to 0.47.05-r6
 - updated TwbT to 0.47.05-r6 (unofficial build by thurin)
 - added Legends Browser 2
 - merged Quickfort blueprints libraries from the DFHack and utility versions

0.47.05-r07
 - updated DFHack to 0.47.05-r5
 - updated TwbT to 0.47.05-r5 (unofficial build by thurin)

Older changelogs can be found in ./LNP/about/changelog.txt

How difficult would it be to add an option for the init file for the game and hack windows?  For example - starting the DF window maximised and on top, so that I wouldn't have to shuffle and resize each time but could just get straight into the game. 

I ask because to the pack for newbs in my sig, where an option that makes it clear which window to use first would be rather useful - as part of a general program which includes the LNP gui enabling minimized/maximized launch, the game would fill the screen with soundsense and dfhack minimized.  (utilities can now auto-launch with the latest LNP)

Is this possible?  Not going to happen?  Coming in a specific timeframe?


ps - PTW an awesome tool