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They introduced the secret ballot for a damn good reason, you know. What's to stop this from happening some more when it goes away? I'm guessing it's nothing.

I suspect that our jurors simply decided whether or not he was guilty, based on the unusual heaps of evidence they were given, and the these dudes i know they could and did summon unlike any other grand jury, and the autopsy they asked for, and all of the other information they were given. The prosecutor tried to paint it as being upfront with them, but it reeks of a secret trial to me.

Shots fired on West Florissant, apparently coming from both sides. Fire department is withdrawing from several burning buildings until things calm down. Police from all around town are converging on the area.

Note I did say 'mixed up with St. Louis'.  that implies St. Louis and its surrounding metropolitan area, not just Ferguson.

They're basically saying "violence and mindlessness are in black people's nature." Don't get me wrong, they're hardly as coherent as that, but that's the message that's dominating.

But yeah, this would be better in its own thread. I bumped the abusive policing thread, but perhaps a new one would be better.

Live from I-44.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/stackizshort?utm_campaign=JPER&utm_medium=FlashPlayer&utm_source=embed

Wallgreens I can understand, lots of pricey pharmaceuticals in there to loot and resell. McDonald's though? Just mindless.

Edit: Fire crews on the scene at Wallgreens.

I wonder where Wilson is now. I'd certainly want to be in a different state, or at least a different part of the state, if I was in his shoes.

Some fires started north of the police station as well, but the area immediately around the station has apparently been cleared. Police are moving into that area in horse now.