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Has ANYBODY successfully trained (NOT tamed) an animal? I always get "No Creature" cancellation spam
Minor update: the exploit still works in .40.01.Unfortunately, that means that falling traps with spikes on the bottom less than 10z high are useless/a huge danger to the fort depending on altitude.
Whats a pocket world?Smallest world size. 17x17.
Embark Anywhere still works. Embarked in elf territory for shits and giggles, and decided what better way to start the night than with chopping down a sacred tree! SPecifically a mighty hazel tree known as Glaciersummits, The Clutch of Dyes.You, sir, are a genius.
it would be great if the newly expanded plant lists allowed for actual uses for plant extracts, and the alchemy workshop.
Couple that with actually useful products for treating infections, and you have a winner.
Sadly, I dont think Toady has herb lore in his bag of tricks, and probably feels uncomfortable adding such things.
(but I would happily give him a mod to look at, if he put the mechanism underneath for me to hang it on!)
Or make a drop trap that dumps the piles of skeletons of slain goblins onto the invading goblins' heads.
Found a bug.
Hauled some animal-men to a distant point and positioned the militia to attack them en route. As it turns out in this version attacking a hauled creature means attacking the hauler as well. My thresher was disemboweled. Explains why my efforts to slaughter the elves resulted in my impromptu mob trying to punch yaks.
I want to add more to this thread seeing as I did my own experiments in the old version, and found a different method to be more effective, with a little more management.
I'm planning to build a Dwarven Boarding School again once I get a stable fort running in 40.xx. DBS was something I tried in my last 34.11 fort: it was a large enclosed space for all fort's children, complete with beds, drinks/food, tables and school uniforms (cloaks and hoods) in opposite corners. Separating all these was "the Classroom", basically a mild danger room with training spears poking at students every time they went from food stockpile to dinner table or from bed to booze barrel. Of course, some spent most of their days in the Classroom anyway, just dancing to the merry music of wooden sticks hitting bone.
The purpose of all this was to have all students reach Legendary levels in basic Dwarven skills (Fighter/Dodge/Armor User) before adulthood. That was the plan, at least; ultimately it failed because I didn't want to micromanage burrows everytime some student passed out in the Classroom with a broken wrist or two and needed hospital care. That, and some of the students were starting to dehydrate because the drinks stockpile didn't have enough barrels for 50+ students. The best students had reached Expert skill levels when the school was closed down.
In future version of the school I'm planning to include a mini-hospital inside school premises. And a much, much larger drinks stockpile, of course.
My gut feeling tells me the results will likely not be particularly useful in that for the amount of effort put in, you won't get much back but I could be wrong. That's what science is for.
The big problems I foresee are the risk to the fort caused by the chronically low moral of many of the mentally damaged children and the sever damage to the parents' moral caused by occasionally losing said children to madness or injury. You will also have children that will graduate with poor social skills and who will not do any work while they are busy being locked up in their "childcare" area until adulthood.
The big flags I have noticed for a dwarf going crazy have been attributes such as being prone to negative thoughts, prone to rage, prone to anxiety etc. You can have some dwarves that lose half their family and walk away from it with their mind intact and others that try to tear down your fortress because some goblins you shot, snuck off the map with a few of their masterwork bolts in their leg. I've learned to always keep dwarves that are prone to negative thoughts and fits of rage etc. out of the military. They generally aren't worth the risk and do better in less stressful rolls. They are also far more likely to tantrum and go mad rather than ever reaching the point where they "don't care about much of anything."
I guess it really depends on the type of training system you speak of whether it is likely to succeed or not. There are ways to train children without damaging them such as using misters throughout the fort to raise moral and simultaneously train swimming and its related stats. Generally I have found that maiming, killing or harming dwarves is counter productive and I leave that to the goblins and forgotten beasts rather than going out of my way to do their jobs for them.
While I applaud the spirit of Science, the only results we really got out of the last one was mental scarring. While I'll admit we'll probably get a serious Discipline spike in the survivors (Which is useful as Hell now) I doubt we'll get much else out of this.
So your saying that apart from the useful stuff, there will be nothing useful? Cant argue with that logic.
It's like regular childcare, except with more dogs, and less care.
Also, this is a horrible inhumane idea and why didn't I think of it.
Dwarf Fortress.
The only game where throwing babies into a pit with crazed dogs will be considered a beneficial concept.
