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Chaplains would be useful for caravans, hospitals, prisons and the military.

And, for less effect, could darves pray by themselves?

Quote from: Azerty on November 19, 2019, 04:15:11 pm

So, in your scenario, a Legendary Miller might work longer than a Dabbling one?

Sorry if I was unclear. No, the Legendary will still be able to do the job faster/better than a Proficient, just not noticeably so, and certainly not with enough gain in speed and/or quality to justify the time & effort of his working all the way up to Legendary. A lowly Dabbler, meanwhile, is going to waste time making mistakes the first few attempts (possibly even ruining a bag of grain or two), but getting the hang of it soon enough.

While having titles for skills levels not have a great importance for extensive fields (that is, fields easy to learn but with diminishing returns) might be seen as useless, in the future, such evidence of experience might give them political and social clout (for exemple, a Legendary Miller might be elected head of a Millers' guild).

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Moreover, it will make a majority of the population work in the fields, which was the situation before the Agricultural Revolution of the 1780s.

Precisely. Of course, I'm not trying to force people to play their game in a certain way, but it just feels wrong for such a (generally) realistic game to do a major disservice to what's been all of humanity's predominant occupation ever since the dawn of civilization. I'm all for procedurally generated cultural differences between one civ & the next, but honestly there doesn't seem to be much room for variance here. Besides, it's difficult to take pride in your supposedly "productive, successful" fortress when every time you scroll through the Units list, 2/3^rds of them are No Job or doing leisure activities.

And if differences in soil productivity are introduced, making sand nearly worthless while black soil very productive then we could have even more differences, with sites basing their economies on exporting food (see Ukraine) while some sites could have to devote themselves to craftwork in order to have more food (Switzerland).

Not particularly realistic, I think. There are nowadays processes to grind stone down to gravel for industrial use (e.g. to be added to reinforce concrete), but grinding it all the way down to sand would require a LOT of work, and many of the grains would probably have dangerously sharp edges.

Breaking rocks was a task typically done by convicts and prisoners. It could be a way to use POWs.

Could they be localized? For exemple, I would want a workshop, to be occuped by craftsdwarves Master and better, to produce high quality items.

Livability should depend from the biologocal imperatives of the invaders: an amphibian species wouldn't have use of an inland site and would merely ask for a tribute or just simply destroy it.

And, combined with my suggestions about civil law, it would be interesting to see whether the former inhabitants would be treated as equals or secong-class citizens.

Dwarves are now a hive-mind. All dwarves in a civ have the same skills, personality, thoughts, etc.
If one goes insane, they all go insane.

It could actually be a good way to manage creatures such as antmen and beemen.

Booze should have to ferment.  You should have to make a non-alcoholic intermediate product (variable depending on the sugar or starch source) and store it in a fixed location for a year or more before it becomes a drinkable alcoholic beverage.  (with quality rating dependent on how long it was stored before being opened or moved).

Moreover, such alcohols could be distillated (this process would require fuel) to procude spirits, which would be stronger.

What could be the uses for the refuse? I could see it feeding less exigent creatures, or used in times of famines.