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It sounds like your idea is to change it from the play telling dwarves what to do to dwarves doing whatever they want which to me sounds like a terrible idea and I strongly oppose it.

Aye, your first caravan will always be hte dorfs who will always strike trade agreements up (renewed every year).  Elves and humans will come next.  However, if you start at a non-standard embark time you can get the other caravans first.  I've embarked in the winter and found an elven caravan before dorf one. 

Also, the different caravans bring different stuff.  Dorfs will generally carry the same stuff you could embark with, but they usually "generate" other metal items to trade that you couldn't select on embark.  Humans will never have steel and will bring "large" weapons and armor that you dorfs can't equip.  You can still buy these and smelt them down for metal (along with the kitchen knives and other human metal goods).  Elves will only bring wooden and cloth/leather items.  However, they will also bring domesticated exotic animals.  You can get breeding pairs of dangerous war-beasts from the elves if you are lucky.  However, the main use of hte elves is if you start in a wood-poor environment (glacier, wasteland, desert, badlands, evil bioimes).  What little wood you get goes to beds.  Then you trade for wooden barrels, crutches, splints, buckets, etc from the hippies.  All caravans will bring food as well.

You can use most human weapons, just not the ones like mauls, two-handed swords, great axes, that kind of thing.

Having said that, apparently dead civs sometimes turn out to be not quite dead yet having a couple of members hanging out in a cave somewhere. Not sure if you can found a city with them though. Presumably even if they were playable you wouldn't get any immigrants.

You can and you do. It's a bit disappointing really that you just get migrants out of nowhere even if your civ is the last of the dwarves and you only have 3 living members left.

1.Drop some things or get stronger. You get stronger by increasing combat skills.
2.Yes.
3.Maybe, what kind of fat is it?
4.Mead Halls are a good place to look. They're the 3x3 square in the human hamlet area that's seperate from the rest of the hamlet.
5.Again a nice mead hall you'll probably come back to is a good choice as the skulls should stay there and it will be easy to remember.
6.Cities. They seem to be a bit rarer these days, but sometimes human civs will have big cities that most likely have walls surrounding them and lots of shops. Also lots of lag. There's not really anything good in shops that you can't get from a mead hall or looking through a few houses from a hamlet so I'd recommend not bothering with them.

Quote from: Pwned dwarf on March 22, 2015, 05:08:50 pm

Quote from: StagnantSoul on March 22, 2015, 03:38:22 pm

I used 80 full iron great dwarves. Hell destroyed me.

how about 50 legendary full steel dwarves

That may work. Train them in pump operator for a while, it increases strength. If possible, get a few candy edge weapons and mail shirts to them.

I'm pretty sure pump operator hasn't increased strength for over 3 years. I believe the way it works is that only military skills raise physical attributes now.

Quote from: StagnantSoul on March 21, 2015, 06:12:55 pm

I believe so. My one race that allowed eating of sentients sold human and dwarf meats.

i don't think that has anything to do with that...

I would assume so. You need to add COMMON_DOMESTIC to that if you want to buy them

Though I remember when I embarked with goblins once (it was in .31 or .34 though), I brought trolls with me, and trolls are sentient.

Maybe the ETHIC:SLAVERY actually has an effect now ?

Goblins have trolls because goblins have [USE_EVIL_ANIMALS]

Wait a second, what reminds me... did you kill them all or let one or two escape?

If you dont let one or two escape then they cannot tell their leaders that you killed their own people
and so their leaders assume that it might have been an accident.
Soi have heard.

I know that in 0.34 missing traders would be assumed as killed by your fortress no matter who they were killed by. Of course with the new rumor system in adventurer mode at least, it seems likely that that system could have been changed.

1. LIKES_FIGHTING, SPEED and SWIM_SPEED have been removed; the former can be replaced with high VIOLENCE value for personality and the latter two are replaced with GAIT, which the wiki has info on and the raws have documentation on. Personality values have changed entirely. Creature attacks also now have ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER.

Was LIKES_FIGHTING really removed? I checked the wiki and it says that it was removed, but I have a mod that has creatures with LIKES_FIGHTING and there's no errors showing up from it.