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......  containers meaning they can stay inside the siege engine pillbox, they also have much improved  ............  resilience compared civilian siege operators.  - However stone selection is  ............ , you cannot specify boulders from a stockpile and link them to catapults like you could do in 47.05,  ............  makes it a problem when siege operators pick up boulders before they take their  ............  projectiles are carefully crafted shots made at a siege engine workshop.  For the game id like to propose  ............  is a new siege engine modding token [MUST_BE_WEIGHTED:<num of z  ............  for 230z, enough for a strong and experienced siege operator dwarf to load with speed. Large Catapult  ......

...... , 2023, 03:36:23 pm  Yes catapults may improve the siege experience, but catapult changes are not  ............  in the improved sieges section.    Not specifically mentioned, no, but  ............ 's a mention of "Siege engine improvements depend on state of boats,  ......

......  metal.   Unless of course they have some sort of siege engine (catapult, trebuchet, ect) or dynamite.     ......

......  the intruders and what qualifies as a walking siege engine.  That would be awesome.  It would also be  ......

......  the question "Is it possible to build an advanced Siege AI" came up in the "Invading adventurers" Thread  ............  31, 2008, 01:15:25 pm  I'm sure that having siegers learn your defenses and take steps to counter  ............  deaths by way of: melee combat; ranged combat; siege engine fire; kill-traps; cage traps; falling or  ............  a lot of attackers fell to Marksdwarves in a few sieges, they could bring along catapults that would  ............  it wouldnt be that hard to find an way for an siege AI.  The problem the current siegers have are  ............  i want to line out some ideas.  1. Learning  An Siege Ai should have an way to "learn" certain things.  ............  moats, walls  - Mele-zones. - Zones were your Siegers are killed by the besieged in melecombat  -  ............ -zones. - Zones were your Siegers are killed by the besieged with Bows/crossbows/ ............  by the Knowledge gathered before the recent siege.    The Informations for the first siege can be  ............  Trapavoid).  Lets asume th Gobs try there first siege on your fortress and send out snatchers as well  ............  the wall now gets marked as "Ranged-zone", if an siegeweapon is seen for an siegeweapons range. The wall  ............  back to our Goblinculture.  Same goes if the siegers attack, get beaten, and retreat with some minor  ............  (an "deal with order" if you want). If you are an sieger you would set prioritys too. Surely baracks and  ............  most resistance can be asumed, Thought diffenernt siegers have different prioritys. To reach that  ............  will encounter.  Traps could be disabeled by by engineers or by driving "Meat" throught it they get an  ............  they get marked an impassable so this way our siegers would path around it.  Moats (pathvalue 25?)  ............  deconstruction of dwarven artilery with own siegeweapons or Ranged military.  2.1 Walls Climbing  ............  Digging  Not only digging should be possible for siegers building siegeweapons and other stuff should be  ............  with Rangedzones get sheduled for being shot with siegeengines if this Zones overlap with our path. If an  ............  (trolls) or if in range of one of the siegeweapons by those. Our trolls should atack an by  ............  weapons defended wall if an siegeweapon cant be brought in position for this wall.  ............  Ai should here Rate the Trolls lower then siegeweapons and reenforce them with the aid of ranged  ............  so fast there should be an chance to fall and the sieger should have an very low hitchance if he attacks  ............  in very heavy gear should be harder.  Since the Siege Ai knows what kind of resistance it has to deal  ............  and how it should select the right kind of siegers too. An heavy trapped and walled of fort needs  ............  siegeweapons and Trapdestroyers then an fort with an  ............ .  (Additional tactics would be possible if "siegeshields" against Ranged weapons, Mobile bridges  ............  can be handeled by some things.  First of the Siege Ai could not only math out one way in it could  ............  ways.  Different plans at the same time. the Siegers could try to break in the fort on 2 or more  ............  spots.  3.1 Sidebhavior (Tortureing the besieged).  The siegers can torture our besieged fort in  ............  the surface fort to dust: The typical grinding siege if you want.  Poisoning the watersource: is  ............ : Once inside an fort it would be devasting if the siegers could destroy your Farmplots and even more so  ............  they burn your wood and Foodstockpiles. The siegers could also grab valueables and better equipment  ............  captives: If there are captives in the fort te siegers could free them so they join in there fight or  ............  of the mayor causes for an attack too. After the siegers broke into the fort they try to knockout or  ............  them.  Bridgeheads. Once inside the fort the sieger could errect Bridgeheads. By stationing guards  ......

......  in contention:   Gunpowder/blackpowder,  Steam engines/steam power.  I'll include information and  ......

......  grassland biom into a swamp biom. Not sure if the engine would really be able to deal with redirected  ............  to leave us in the future. For example, once siege armies are generated from the world map, will the  ............  to turn off sieges remain? Just wondering if anyone has seen  ......

......  back but we won't stand long with this breach!"   Siege engines Spoiler (click to show/hide) Portable  ............  The back is turned against you, stab. Same link as above To make sneaking and stealth kills  ............ .bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=87674.0 First link is about simply standing your ground and the  ............ .com/smf/index.php?topic=90273.0 Allied Siege Breakers http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php? ............ =89169.0 Allow Siegers to lay traps... and return the favour. http:// ............  attempt to demand tribute from you  Improved sieges  Eliminate remaining edge-of-map exploits  ............  fails badly  For instance, if many siegers are killed, caged, etc. in a given hallway,  ............  if that means building/climbing/digging  Siege engine improvements depend on state of boats,  ......

......  for the final version.  So, suggestions:  More siege engines. This is pretty obvious, and I saw  ............  that the siege engines are going to get expanded, so I offer my  ............ . Mainly three siege engines.  Arbalest: Smaller then ballista, but  ............  flammable solution could be then put inside a siege engine, ignited and allowed to exit from another  ............  be reloaded after each shot. Obviously the siege operators of the flamer should not panic when  ............  the flamer loaded.  Second idea is related to siege engines. I'd like a possibility to link siege  ............  of course, for more power, we should have a steam engine. Steam engine could be a building (either 3x3 or  ......

......  Then I looked again and felt silly. Quote  [...] -Siege engineering: To be honest, I really wouldn't know  ............  to make any kind of siege-engine without an example.   In general,  ............  siege engineering requires knowledge of materials,  ......

......  amazing addition, I'm just not sure the current engine can handle it, as air would probably be sort of  ............  for the entire map!  My prefered solution to the siege thing would be to allow creatures to climb up and  ............  a dwarf to go insane, such that waiting out a siege which can last an entire year may not be feasable  ............  fortress should be very unhappy from being under siege for so long.  An alternative solution would be to  ............  I don't think thats quite as elegant as instead linking it to being able to reach the edge of the map.  ......

...... , 2015, 04:42:33 am  Correct me if I'm wrong, but sieges that know from the start where exactly to dig  ............ , fast. No matter how good your army is, a massive siege that digs straight past all the defences will  ............  anyone inside. If sieges don't know from the start, they should have a  ............ ).  3. Pre-emptively kill the miners, with   a) Siege engines, minecart shotguns, or something similar   ............  with enfilading fire--in other words, place a siege engine that can fire along the length of the  ......

...... ? Well, I think the best way to describe it is "Engineering". DF is different because it revolves  ............  is not simply magic spellcraft, that is magic engineering. And engineering requires not just  ............  other creatures? Surely they aren't going to be engineers! No, no they aren't. Still, we really do  ............  dwarves to create truly magnificent feats of engineering.    Energy Sources Or "What to get for the  ............  thinking!) which would behave somewhat like a siege engine. Wizards would sit in their circle, which  ............  to their target, a handful of prepared spells, a link to their mana pool, and, as a team, launch  ............  construct it like furniture is, where it must be linked to a power source, like pumps must be powered.  ......

......  31, 2008, 01:15:25 pm  I'm sure that having siegers learn your defenses and take steps to counter  ............  deaths by way of: melee combat; ranged combat; siege engine fire; kill-traps; cage traps; falling or  ............  a lot of attackers fell to Marksdwarves in a few sieges, they could bring along catapults that would  ......

......  artillery will be possible via modding after the siege engine and moving parts overhaul, which i believe  ............  5 could also be used to weaken the strength of a siege, should catapults be able to fire over walls in  ............  a squad or two of riflemen will accompany a human siege if the invading civilization is advanced enough.   ......