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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #10470 on: April 28, 2014, 10:26:25 am »

In the next release will eggs hatch in adventure mode?  Specifically those dragon eggs people keep finding.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #10471 on: April 28, 2014, 10:39:41 am »

I hope so, that's the kind of stuff one expects from an activated world... however it's a very fine question.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #10472 on: April 28, 2014, 10:49:54 am »

In the next release will eggs hatch in adventure mode?  Specifically those dragon eggs people keep finding.

If you take some eggs from a dragons nest in adventurer mode and bring it to a fortress, will they still hatch? Assuming your dwarves don't make omlettes out of them between retiring the adventurer and taking control of the fort again.

If so, then baby Dragonlets! :D  People might mod them to grow up faster rather than taking a thousand years to grow to full size if they do this.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #10473 on: April 28, 2014, 12:08:37 pm »

In the next release will eggs hatch in adventure mode?  Specifically those dragon eggs people keep finding.

If you take some eggs from a dragons nest in adventurer mode and bring it to a fortress, will they still hatch? Assuming your dwarves don't make omlettes out of them between retiring the adventurer and taking control of the fort again.

If so, then baby Dragonlets! :D  People might mod them to grow up faster rather than taking a thousand years to grow to full size if they do this.

Don't you have to mod dragons currently to ever get them to hatch at all outside of world gen? I doubt Toady have strayed into fixing small issues like that since it's not really related to anything in the soon to come release more than general worldiness. Might be something that'd get sorted in the post-release fixing period though.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #10474 on: April 28, 2014, 04:05:12 pm »

In the next release will eggs hatch in adventure mode?  Specifically those dragon eggs people keep finding.

If you take some eggs from a dragons nest in adventurer mode and bring it to a fortress, will they still hatch? Assuming your dwarves don't make omlettes out of them between retiring the adventurer and taking control of the fort again.

If so, then baby Dragonlets! :D  People might mod them to grow up faster rather than taking a thousand years to grow to full size if they do this.

Don't you have to mod dragons currently to ever get them to hatch at all outside of world gen? I doubt Toady have strayed into fixing small issues like that since it's not really related to anything in the soon to come release more than general worldiness. Might be something that'd get sorted in the post-release fixing period though.

That was before he activated the world though, so we don't really know what will happen with the eggs for sure.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #10475 on: April 28, 2014, 04:38:22 pm »

In the next release will eggs hatch in adventure mode?  Specifically those dragon eggs people keep finding.

If you take some eggs from a dragons nest in adventurer mode and bring it to a fortress, will they still hatch? Assuming your dwarves don't make omlettes out of them between retiring the adventurer and taking control of the fort again.

If so, then baby Dragonlets! :D  People might mod them to grow up faster rather than taking a thousand years to grow to full size if they do this.

Don't you have to mod dragons currently to ever get them to hatch at all outside of world gen? I doubt Toady have strayed into fixing small issues like that since it's not really related to anything in the soon to come release more than general worldiness. Might be something that'd get sorted in the post-release fixing period though.

I just know that every couple months someone finds a dragon egg and comes to the adventure mode forums asking what they can do with it.  Maybe that's dropped off, I haven't been by the adventure mode forums much recently.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #10476 on: April 28, 2014, 04:44:00 pm »

I'd be rather surprised if found eggs hatch in the next version, to be honest. I don't recall any specific mention that Toady looked at eggs, and the new births that are getting scheduled are likely to always be live units for now, and not items. Besides, found eggs would be outside nest boxes, which I think are still the only way to hatch eggs, so those found eggs would need new mechanics to be able to hatch.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #10477 on: April 28, 2014, 04:53:17 pm »

In the next release will eggs hatch in adventure mode?  Specifically those dragon eggs people keep finding.

If you take some eggs from a dragons nest in adventurer mode and bring it to a fortress, will they still hatch? Assuming your dwarves don't make omlettes out of them between retiring the adventurer and taking control of the fort again.

If so, then baby Dragonlets! :D  People might mod them to grow up faster rather than taking a thousand years to grow to full size if they do this.

Don't you have to mod dragons currently to ever get them to hatch at all outside of world gen? I doubt Toady have strayed into fixing small issues like that since it's not really related to anything in the soon to come release more than general worldiness. Might be something that'd get sorted in the post-release fixing period though.

That was before he activated the world though, so we don't really know what will happen with the eggs for sure.

Activating the world isn't really a flip of a switch that just makes things work in new ways. Unless he specifically changed eggs and/or dragons there won't be anything new with them, since the issue isn't so much with lack of an activated world as with eggs being very much unfinished overall. They'll obviously be sorted at some point, but I doubt Toady has taken the time to fix that particular tiny detail out of nowhere when he had a hundred vastly bigger prospects to deal with. I'd love to be wrong though of course, but to me expecting that kind of change doesn't make sense.

Fixing eggs certainly has a somewhat higher prio now though. It wouldn't surprise me if it got touched upon when Kobolds get sorted (hopefully in one of the smaller releases following bugfixing, since it should've been in this release to start with).

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« Reply #10478 on: April 28, 2014, 05:35:28 pm »

Now that the release is just in the debugging stage (to make it playable).......

With this release having taken nearly two years so far, do you think future release cycles will be shorter or could we see long intervals of 6 months to 2 years again in the future?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #10479 on: April 28, 2014, 05:53:54 pm »

Now that the release is just in the debugging stage (to make it playable).......

With this release having taken nearly two years so far, do you think future release cycles will be shorter or could we see long intervals of 6 months to 2 years again in the future?

I'd assume it's the same as with every other long release cycle. He doesn't want them to take that long and hopes to do better, but will most likely slip back into massive releases every now and then anyway. Personally I don't really mind, since it's still the same amount of content that gets done over the same time ish. Then again I'm kind of weird xP
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #10480 on: April 28, 2014, 06:10:58 pm »

Now that the release is just in the debugging stage (to make it playable).......

With this release having taken nearly two years so far, do you think future release cycles will be shorter or could we see long intervals of 6 months to 2 years again in the future?

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« Reply #10481 on: April 28, 2014, 06:25:43 pm »

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Oh man, I keep forgetting bay12 has a twitter account. Here's the full quote: "My previous estimates have been trash. There's a long list of issues to work through, and I'll keep posting logs on the main page." That was four days ago, and no logs yet, so I'm betting bugfixing will take a while. A month might be optimistic.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #10482 on: April 28, 2014, 06:42:56 pm »

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« Reply #10483 on: April 28, 2014, 09:16:33 pm »

Graah! He must've posted that right around the time I did. Ah well, progress is good. Wonder what the "filming and audio recording" is about?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #10484 on: April 28, 2014, 09:34:11 pm »

It involves scamps so it must be adorable.
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