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Farmerbob

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7755 on: October 12, 2013, 07:10:59 am »

Have you ever considered the possibility of creating a new class of object for those things which tend to create lots of clutter due to small stacks?  For example, "mixed" bones.  "mixed" arrows, etc.  This could be a part of the cleaning job (which might then get a small boost in it's priority?), to collect and combine small stacks of items of varying types into a single group of "mixed" items with random effectiveness, which could then be used by dwarves rather than cluttering the landscape.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7756 on: October 12, 2013, 07:23:02 am »

I have always wanted something like trees in the legend mode. Today, everybody (outcasts, religion, civilisations and groups) are on the same list, and the same level, and I find this quite disturbing. At least, a color code or a system of directory/sub directory would be welcome !

Even cooler would be cross-references that you select with the mouse and/or keyboard. For example, on Urist McAdventurer's history page,

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In 938, Urist McAdventurer became an enemy in the eyes of The Cloistered Pages

And then you could select "The Cloistered Pages" and see their history page.

Eh, no, marriages can happen very quickly in fortress mode, if you only have a few dwarves, and micromanage them for best social effect.  I could get marriages in a year or so fairly regularly by having my dwarves do nothing but socialize, and grow food and make booze.  As soon as they were married though, BAM, time to stop socializing and get a job.  Dwarven children growing up in the fort would have highly developed social skills too, unlike new fortress dwarves.

But if others have seen 12 year old dwarves have kids that's fine too.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7757 on: October 12, 2013, 09:34:45 am »

Will all of the creatures have the gait stuff in their raws eventually? I understand if the humanoids just have those gait stuff at first because finding out the gaits of other stuff requires research that takes time. Also, gotta get the cheetahs speed in, right? :D
I believe all creatures will have gaits in the next version, though maybe not all perfectly-researched ones.
Quote from: Toady One, on 03/29/2013
In addition to cleaning up random unfunny bugs, I've been entering all of the gait data into the raws now that that part of combat is definitely settled. Creature variations can now take argument strings which replace argument markers in the variation definition (the arguments are different speed numbers in this case). The use of lines of the variation can also be made conditional on these arguments. There isn't enough resolution in the game's time system for speeds to make sense entirely, without letting critters like cheetahs understand moving more than one square per click. Fixing it isn't as easy as making projectiles go more than one tile per click. In any case, critters that should be faster than a dwarf or human at full speed are much faster at their full speed, while one creature's full speed is generally much faster than its walking speed, so it'll be an improvement.

Oh, missed that somehow when looking through the devlog posts.

It may just be a matter of looking up the numbers and translating them into whatever value he is using
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7758 on: October 12, 2013, 10:34:31 am »

Have you ever considered the possibility of creating a new class of object for those things which tend to create lots of clutter due to small stacks?  For example, "mixed" bones.  "mixed" arrows, etc.  This could be a part of the cleaning job (which might then get a small boost in it's priority?), to collect and combine small stacks of items of varying types into a single group of "mixed" items with random effectiveness, which could then be used by dwarves rather than cluttering the landscape.
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Req112, ITEM AGGREGATES, (Future): Need fake item stacks that combine items that aren't identical. There are a number of associated difficulties. Identical items should also be combined into actual stacks. These currently exist but are never reformed once they are broken part.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7759 on: October 13, 2013, 03:33:56 am »

Blessed are the cheesemakers, for they will be called children of Armok.

SHIT! I wish I'd thought of that one. My hat tips for you, good sir.

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Are references by proxy still references? It could make Godwin's law much more difficult to avoid.

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Then they came for Potashmakers and I was silent, because I was not a potashmaker.

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7760 on: October 13, 2013, 04:40:35 am »

Ned Kelly?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7763 on: October 13, 2013, 12:21:22 pm »

So an early Ironman?

I hope toady and threetoe ok and the hospital visit was a routine checkup.

Will there be atleast a haloween story by Zach/threetoe?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7764 on: October 13, 2013, 07:55:25 pm »

 "Zach's doing much better, though he'll still be laid up a couple weeks."

Glad to hear he is doing better, hope he recovers. :D

Is it okay if I ask what happened?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7765 on: October 14, 2013, 02:34:58 am »

Am I right assuming a "digging-too-deep" related nose-picking joke wouldn't be appropriate now?
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« Reply #7766 on: October 14, 2013, 02:48:00 am »

I hope the hospital was stocked with enough cat tallow soap and -pig tail cloth-.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7767 on: October 14, 2013, 04:33:15 am »

*pig tail cloth* would be more appropriate. It's Threetoes !
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7768 on: October 14, 2013, 07:34:27 am »

I hope he makes a speedy recover. Also I join in Moddan curiosity, if is not considered rude, in which case my most sincere apologies for asking.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7769 on: October 14, 2013, 09:28:15 am »

I hope he makes a speedy recover. Also I join in Moddan curiosity, if is not considered rude, in which case my most sincere apologies for asking.

Tarn and Zach have been minor celebrities for a while now, their expectation of privacy should be appropriately diminished. Maybe they will cobble together a press release for the forums.
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