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[Footkerchief]

I must ask - I haven't been able to follow the development very well so what is in the next release? Is it stuff that's for adventure mode only? My favorite mode is Dwarf mode so I'm on the fence whenever I should be really excited yet.

Here's a fan-compiled changelog.  Features marked with an asterisk (*) pertain to Fortress Mode.

[LordBaal]

The main feature is that the world will be completely dynamic during play that goes hand to hand with the retirement and retirement of fortress that allow you to appreciate this up close with an adventurer.

So while you play a fortress things will change in the whole world. You could leave your fortress to become an adventurer, trail all the world and if survive go to retire in the very same fortress you started (if survived) and retake the fortress mode there. Or at least that's the plan.

[Knight Otu]

I wonder if how an animal smells/how smelly it is is governed by raws now.

How else would it be governed? I guess zombie smell could be hardcoded, but otherwise...

Sense of smell will be governed by raws for sure, but for smelliness, I kinda doubt it. It sounds like there are just two categories: rotten (i.e. has the rotting tissue flag) and normal (everything else).

Yeah, my post was mainly aimed at the sense of smell thing, since we only know about zombies being particularly smelly.

[thvaz]

The main feature is that the world will be completely dynamic during play that goes hand to hand with the retirement and retirement of fortress that allow you to appreciate this up close with an adventurer.

So while you play a fortress things will change in the whole world. You could leave your fortress to become an adventurer, trail all the world and if survive go to retire in the very same fortress you started (if survived) and retake the fortress mode there. Or at least that's the plan.

The world won't be completely dynamic - many things that happen in world gen will still not happen after it. Basicly we will have born/death cycles. Night creatures won't harass villagers, people won't defile temples and get cursed, adventurers won't hunt dangerous creatures, etc.

[LordBaal]

Micro stuff may not be yet, however the macro will be, including (if I'm not wrong) real armies besieging your fort, heirs taking thrones and wars as well, things most important to the fortress player, meanwhile an adventurer getting cursed on the other side of the world wont matter that much (for the time being).

[thvaz]

Micro stuff may not be yet, however the macro will be, including (if I'm not wrong) real armies besieging your fort, heirs taking thrones and wars as well, things most important to the fortress player, meanwhile an adventurer getting cursed on the other side of the world wont matter that much (for the time being).

There are sucession stuff, people traveling between vilages and towns to marry and assume positions, new settlements being founded. I think settlements can be conquered, but I don't think new wars will be declared after world gen.

[MrWiggles]

Micro stuff may not be yet, however the macro will be, including (if I'm not wrong) real armies besieging your fort, heirs taking thrones and wars as well, things most important to the fortress player, meanwhile an adventurer getting cursed on the other side of the world wont matter that much (for the time being).

There are sucession stuff, people traveling between vilages and towns to marry and assume positions, new settlements being founded. I think settlements can be conquered, but I don't think new wars will be declared after world gen.

There's been no real changes to fort mode sieges. The last change, and I cant remember if it was during this dev cycle, or the last, is that Seigers were pulled from actual population counts.

[LordBaal]

That's what I meant by "real armies". Now they must come from somewhere instead of just spawn.

I don't think new wars will be declared after world gen.

I'm pretty sure, but you could be right.

Oh Great Toady! Maker of everything that's good to play, Lord of the Bits and Tamer of the Wildest Felines, could you in your infinite wisdom about the universe you have created for us, tell us if in the next release of your greatest work of all, new wars will be declared after world generation stops?

[Footkerchief]

Oh Great Toady! Maker of everything that's good to play, Lord of the Bits and Tamer of the Wildest Felines, could you in your infinite wisdom about the universe you have created for us, tell us if in the next release of your greatest work of all, new wars will be declared after world generation stops?

This is embarrassing.

[Jiharo]

On topic of sort-of-wars, how do goblin leaders decide when and whom to raid?

I mean, do their thought processes go as "Our relationship with this village is terrible, let's raid it if we can." or "It's been a long time without a raid and too many goblins hang out around the tower. Let's pick some target."?

[Footkerchief]

On topic of sort-of-wars, how do goblin leaders decide when and whom to raid?

I mean, do their thought processes go as "Our relationship with this village is terrible, let's raid it if we can." or "It's been a long time without a raid and too many goblins hang out around the tower. Let's pick some target."?

The presence of moving armies on the world map during play also raises tactical and strategic concerns about the placement of forts. How do hostile civs target each other's sites for attack? Could an "outpost" fort placed between a metropolitan fort and a necromancer tower or dark fortress divert attacks away from the larger fort? Will attack frequency and strength be reflected by proximity? (apart from the 20-tile necromancer tower "attack radius")

There's nothing interesting about the targeting at this point, and since human sites are the targets, your fort placement doesn't enter into it.  I haven't tried to do anything tactical or put much thought into the targeting because there are no army fights and no supplies/economics.  We're just starting with some stuff to get the ball rolling and it'll eventually make more sense.

[Jiharo]

Thanks!

[smjjames]

Oh Great Toady! Maker of everything that's good to play, Lord of the Bits and Tamer of the Wildest Felines, could you in your infinite wisdom about the universe you have created for us, tell us if in the next release of your greatest work of all, new wars will be declared after world generation stops?

This is embarrassing.

He says it in a silly and slightly embarrassing way, yes, but he does have a good question: Will new wars be declared after the initial worldgen stops.

[catenate]

Oh Great Toady! Maker of everything that's good to play, Lord of the Bits and Tamer of the Wildest Felines, could you in your infinite wisdom about the universe you have created for us, tell us if in the next release of your greatest work of all, new wars will be declared after world generation stops?

This is embarrassing.

This is amusing, and tame.  Have you never consulted the Internet Oracle?  LordBaal is unlikely to be ZOTted, and Toady is unlikely to demand that LordBaal personally lead the charge against the goblins' new scratchy and hissy cat-a-pult.  Other than that, the quest for answers about the mysteries of dwarven lives does have similarities.

[LordBaal]

Bah Footkerchief! Your lack of faith and respect on the Toady shall not pass unattended for long, for his rage and vengefulness are bound by no limits beyond those of the 32 bits! Beware!