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Talvieno

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9900 on: April 02, 2014, 11:26:54 am »

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In a hole in the ground there lived a dwarf. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a dwarf fortress, and that means magma.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9901 on: April 02, 2014, 11:58:17 am »

 
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In a hole in the ground there lived a dwarf. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a dwarf fortress, and that means magma.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9902 on: April 02, 2014, 12:24:25 pm »

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In a hole in the ground there lived a dwarf. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a dwarf fortress, and that means magma.

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In a hole in the ground there lived a dwarf. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a dwarf fortress, and that means magma.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9903 on: April 02, 2014, 02:33:15 pm »

And Baal, I know that, don't worry.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9904 on: April 02, 2014, 03:19:49 pm »

Here is the followup on raws:

Critters:

[SMELL_TRIGGER:50] how good is your nose?  low is better.  minimum 1, default is 50, humans set to 90 because they suck
[ODOR_LEVEL:50] how stinky are you?  zero = odorless, default is 50, smell_trigger greaterless than or equal to odor_level detects w/ wind
[ODOR_STRING:wet dog hair] <-- optional, displays race name (not caste name) if you don't provide a string
[LOW_LIGHT_VISION:100] bonus percentage, cannot penalize yet, default is zero, just throw in 10000 to make it perfect


Garden plants (the file names probably aren't entirely accurate with respect to what is in them):

Garden
Crops

There's still some messiness with exactly how seeds are going to work -- the new brew-from-fruit job takes any growth and gives back drink and seeds, using the mats you provide in the normal reaction way, but other actions like eating aren't reactions, so they have to go with the growth flag GROWTH_HAS_SEEDS.  There are also some discomforts w/ whole plants vs. their growths that aren't entirely resolved.  This is what I'm working with, anyway.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9905 on: April 02, 2014, 03:24:26 pm »

Oh God, Oh God, Oh God, Oh God, Oh God, Oh God, Oh God, Oh God, Oh God, Oh God, Oh God, Oh God.... please excuse me while I piss like an excited dog.

Ok, so it's a simple enough system to be just brilliant. So, we'll get an announcement whenever we smell something funny and/or new? And it's going to be labeled with whatever thing is emanating the odor like "you smell a zombie" or do we get more vague hints like "you smell rotten meat" which could be whatever between just bad food up to a zombie titan.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9906 on: April 02, 2014, 03:25:34 pm »

He he he, it's not that exciting.  The flower blooming times are all the same.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9907 on: April 02, 2014, 03:28:34 pm »

Any thought toward new materials from the plants, like being able to make linen from flax, or burlap from jute?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9908 on: April 02, 2014, 03:30:27 pm »


[SMELL_TRIGGER:50] how good is your nose?  low is better.  minimum 1, default is 50, humans set to 90 because they suck
[ODOR_LEVEL:50] how stinky are you?  zero = odorless, default is 50, smell_trigger greater or equal to odor_level detects w/ wind


Shouldn't that be "odor_level greater or equal to smell_trigger detects"? If you have a good (low) SMELL_TRIGGER, then you require only a small amount of odor to detect a creature, so if a creature's odor level is greater than your trigger level, then you detect the smelly creature, right?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9909 on: April 02, 2014, 03:31:38 pm »

Ah, yeah.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9910 on: April 02, 2014, 03:36:41 pm »

Thank you, Toady! You're pure awesome. I'm excited - going to look at the new raws now.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9911 on: April 02, 2014, 03:38:52 pm »

Ah, yeah.

Mopsy rescues DF 2014 from odor bug perdition.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9912 on: April 02, 2014, 03:39:06 pm »

Is there something about the strength of the odor ? Okay, the smell can be good or bad, but is there a raw for the force of the smell (the distance from where it can be smelt with a normal nose ?)
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9913 on: April 02, 2014, 03:41:57 pm »

Here is the followup on raws:

Critters:

[SMELL_TRIGGER:50] how good is your nose?  low is better.  minimum 1, default is 50, humans set to 90 because they suck
[ODOR_LEVEL:50] how stinky are you?  zero = odorless, default is 50, smell_trigger greaterless than or equal to odor_level detects w/ wind
Do members of a race all get the same SMELL_TRIGGER, or is it individualized? Can it be improved? (Since it can in real life.)
Is it going to be affected by genetics?
Is the detection going to be randomized in any way besides the wind?

What affects the ODOR_LEVEL?
(Not sure if I missed that somewhere.)
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9914 on: April 02, 2014, 03:45:13 pm »

Thanks Toady!

I want a release.

The smell system allow for detection of corpses and carrion? I'm asking not with undead in mind, but with normal corpses and miasma.
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