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[umiman]

In fact, I think I'm going to fail a course because of unethical reasoning. Apparently people don't enjoy being considered as probability in the grand scheme of things and people don't like it when you reason justifiable murder in the face of potential gain.

Also, Facebook's evil-o-meter says I'm Satan, and that only happened after I started playing Dwarf Fortress. Everyone knows Facebook is always right, so that's irrefutable proof right there.

The side benefit is that I can assure you when I take over the world, everyone will die in a very humorous way that may or may not involve magma, kittens and a very, very big dining room.

[JoRo]

A very, very big dining room?  Well, then everything is A-OK(or is that A(RM)OK?).  All is forgiven with a very, very big dining room.

[Lyrax]

As long as we all get to eat in the dining room, too, I don't see anything wrong with that.

[Kagus]

It's simply conditioning.  You know how dwarves become hardened when they spend time around death?  Well, it happens to the players as well.

[Capntastic]

Why not tell us what happened in some details instead of popping in and saying "DF is gonna make me lose a class!"

This thread, so far, does not deliver.

[Deon]

Capntastic

quote:Apparently people don't enjoy being considered as probability in the grand scheme of things and people don't like it when you reason justifiable murder in the face of potential gain.

Isn't it enough for you to explain what happened?

[Capntastic]

Yeah but I like specifics; I feel cheated if a story is only half told.

[umiman]

While I'm sure the full specifics will only serve to bore you to death, suffice it to say is that I wrote a lengthy and decisive paper concerning the logic behind willingly and knowingly murdering someone for the unlikely prospect of a more interesting life. In the same way one would shoot a close friend, then maim his cold, lifeless corpse with a lawnmower when the payoff is the unlikely (but still entirely possible) chance of becoming Superman.

And while my peers thought it to be most engaging and logical, they also deemed me to be satan-spawn and a potential threat to humanity at my ability to quote-unquote "reason life away".

[Kagus]

Things were going fine until I saw that last bit.  "Reason life away"?  That's not something you want to hear.  That's something a person who view life as supernaturally sacred says, and that's rarely a good sign.

Also, lawnmower?  Superman?  C'mon man, we're not gonna be bored by that!  Bring it!

[umiman]

tl/dr: I'm not showing off my baby! Gerrof my lawn!

I only gave that example because it's entertaining. The entirety of the paper is far more serious (it is a full-length academic paper) and the examples are more along the lines of justifying the holocaust through semantic externalism.

It's not really intended for casual, online reading and I have no intention of letting the general public get rifled up over some of the content that could potentially get me banned. It would be the same as intentionally saying "Apple sucks!" in a Mac forum (or going, "Christians suck!" in an internet forum). I fully understand this sounds entirely unconvincing, but that's how it is.

The simple fact of the matter is that 30 years in the future when you live underfoot the oppressive heel of a superconglomerate corporation, forced to eat and drink mushrooms and toil for meaningless mandates, you can only blame Dwarf Fortress.

edit: I also noticed I seem to type much longer posts whenever I'm on this forum.

[ April 23, 2008: Message edited by: umiman ]

[Greiger]

GTA ain't got nothin on Dwarf Fortress it seems  

[Fishersalwaysdie]

Yeah I got desensitized by DF too...
I hope it's not permanent.

[ April 23, 2008: Message edited by: Fishersalwaysdie ]

[Sean Mirrsen]

A while ago, some people on a russian forumboard were discussing whether or no DF was a phenomenon in itself. Most thought it wasn't. I guess they were wrong...

Also, while I did not go down to specifics such as murder, I was considering that planet-wide war is good, in the way it would make life interesting, long before I ever heard of DF. I didn't write anything about it though.  

I guess it happens, some people get bored with life. It's just that some want to end it, and some go to great lengths to liven it up.

[ April 23, 2008: Message edited by: Sean Mirrsen ]

[Earthquake Damage]

quote:Originally posted by Sean Mirrsen:
<STRONG>I was considering that planet-wide war is good, in the way it would make life interesting</STRONG>

I suspect this opinion isn't entirely uncommon among people who've never fought in, lost anyone to, or otherwise been significantly affected by a war.  Those who have probably find this POV appalling.

Hypothetical course of events:  Life is dull.  Then it gets interesting.  Life is miserable.  Then it quiets down.  Life is dull.  Dull is good.

[Cthulhu]

I think that, with the level of military technology we've obtained, a third world war would be game over for mankind.