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Sludge Man

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Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« on: February 16, 2012, 04:30:43 am »

I've tried everything I know to do, even reembarking a few times with nothing but seven dwarves with copper crossbows and quivers, but I can't make anyone use archery targets. They are marked active, and their schedule is set to train with a minimum of five dwarves. They are set to train with wooden bolts. They are set to train on that particular archery range. They pick up all of their equipment, including filling their quivers with wooden arrows. Yet all they want to do is either individual training at their barracks, or wander around the fortress with "No activity". Any ideas?
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Re: Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 04:32:12 am »

Check your direction and your area?  They need enough room to shoot and they need to be able to stand at the shooting side.

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Re: Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 04:39:24 am »

Check your direction and your area?  They need enough room to shoot and they need to be able to stand at the shooting side.

I got the same problem.
Archery shooting range is set up just as in the last version (used in 20+ forts) - Dwarves got all equipment
Still no shooting.

Seems broken...
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Re: Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 04:52:08 am »

Same
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Re: Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2012, 06:06:53 am »

I too have archery range problem but since I have a chronic giant mosquito problem on the surface where I trade, I instead covered a few iron plated shooters all in iron (heavy cop dwarves). I think live shooting give more experience but not sure. Also thinking about other way like i just started war with elves by testing my crossbows on them and also some weird hamsterman WTF. My dwarves are getting scared and some weird personalities are showing up too so berserkers will come for sure so they are also target practice. I got cages too so Im planning to have a shooting range with fortification and fresh booze. Soon the soil layer will be completely mined and I will breach the cavern layers to get all woods types so I can get practice ammos a lot.
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Re: Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2012, 07:18:02 am »

I submitted a bug report on this issue. I also created an archery training testbed- it includes two archery targets, a barracks, seven quivers, seven copper crossbows, and several hundred wooden and copper bolts. All that is left is setting up the military. If anyone can get the dwarves to train on archery targets, please post how you did it! The save is here: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=5533
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Re: Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 07:26:27 am »

My marksdwarves only shoot at archery targets in their off-time.  Haven't tried it yet in this new version though (barely surviving as is!). 
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Re: Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2012, 07:56:05 am »

Yep, confirming I can't get marksdwarves to shoot at archery targets in this new version, using Sludge Man's testbed save and after removing the dump order on the archery targets. I can get them to train and give crossbow demonstrations even and they'll happily go shoot stuff when I give a kill order, but they won't use the archery targets. Given my DF2010 forts essentially ran on having all my haulers shoot at archery targets in their off-time, I'm quite confident the issue is in the latest version and not me. The soldiers even had moments when their job was "Soldier (no activity)" which means they wanted to use an archery range but just couldn't find a suitable one.
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Re: Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2012, 07:57:34 am »

You sure they're not working? Archery targets were notoriously unfriendly to all who wanted to use them in DF2010 as well

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Re: Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2012, 08:02:14 am »

You sure they're not working? Archery targets were notoriously unfriendly to all who wanted to use them in DF2010 as well
Like I said, my DF2010 forts entirely depended upon mass archery for defence. I'd build halls of 60+ archery targets and try to balance the number of bolts produced to keep up with how many were used up for practice, let alone for live combat. I'm the one who found the patrol method of getting marksdwarves to automatically reload once they use up their quiver.
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Re: Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 08:14:55 am »

Yep, confirming I can't get marksdwarves to shoot at archery targets in this new version, using Sludge Man's testbed save and after removing the dump order on the archery targets.

Oops, thanks for pointing that out, I fixed it and updated the save. I don't think it makes a difference either way, the armor stand also had a dump order and they happily trained there.
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Re: Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2012, 09:58:58 am »

Yeah, tried your save.  Rebuilt the ranges and did everything i could think of.  It's broke :(
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Re: Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2012, 02:13:44 pm »

Same.  Tried the usual stuff; no go.
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Re: Anyone able to use archery targets this version?
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2012, 10:06:48 pm »

Oh thank goodness I found this thread before creating a new one.  Yeah, archer training is no-go, even after checking the standard things: Yes they have all equipment, yes they are wearing quivers, they have wooden arrows in their ammunition manifest and they have them in said quiver, the targets are set up in the correct direction, and the archery target 'room' is marked for training.
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