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Dalkar

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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #105 on: February 25, 2012, 02:27:25 pm »
Tested these guys in the arena. Twenty grandmaster Dwarves with spears, axes, crossbows, swords, hammers hit it for ages and it was still alive. It was somehow unconscious though, and couldn't wake up while the dudes were wailing on it. Excellent training dummies when incapacitated.
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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #106 on: February 25, 2012, 03:08:59 pm »
Normal sponge vs flesh ball. Who wins?
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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #107 on: February 25, 2012, 03:55:01 pm »
Quote from: jaxy15 on February 25, 2012, 03:08:59 pm
Normal sponge vs flesh ball. Who wins?
The dwarven viewing public.
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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #108 on: February 25, 2012, 04:32:38 pm »
Quote from: jaxy15 on February 25, 2012, 03:08:59 pm
Normal sponge vs flesh ball. Who wins?

I'll check...
... fleshballs can't be used in the arena so I pitted the sponge against a giant skunk. The battle was eventless but then the giant sponge air-drowned.

The giant skunk didn't use any spray attack. I am disappointed.

Pitted a giant sponge against a giant cave spider ... in water the cave spider drowned and only shot webs at the sponge. on land he shot webs at it and bit it. he was unable to inject venom into the sponge though... and the sponge soon drowned.

Right now dwarves are shooting a sponge in water up with arrow bolts. The sponge is feeling PAIN ain't that something? Now he's feeling EXTREME PAIN ... and has 17+ bolts stuck in the body. He refuses ... to die! .. and now the pain went away he's feeling right as rain.

Fuck it. Sponges are immortal unless you dry them out.
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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #109 on: February 25, 2012, 04:59:44 pm »
Quote from: Aspgren on February 25, 2012, 04:32:38 pm
Quote from: jaxy15 on February 25, 2012, 03:08:59 pm
Normal sponge vs flesh ball. Who wins?

I'll check...
... fleshballs can't be used in the arena so I pitted the sponge against a giant skunk. The battle was eventless but then the giant sponge air-drowned.

The giant skunk didn't use any spray attack. I am disappointed.

Pitted a giant sponge against a giant cave spider ... in water the cave spider drowned and only shot webs at the sponge. on land he shot webs at it and bit it. he was unable to inject venom into the sponge though... and the sponge soon drowned.

Right now dwarves are shooting a sponge in water up with arrow bolts. The sponge is feeling PAIN ain't that something? Now he's feeling EXTREME PAIN ... and has 17+ bolts stuck in the body. He refuses ... to die! .. and now the pain went away he's feeling right as rain.

Fuck it. Sponges are immortal unless you dry them out.

Skunks have no syndrome attached to them in the raws.  I think it was a side effect of all of the sponsorship animals getting thrown in at crunch time prior to the release.  Even if they did, would it effect sponges at all?  They have no eyes and likely no sense of smell so any effect would be minor especially considering they’re submerged in water.

Thinking about it now, sponges really just should have been added as a plant type.  They’re not really cut out for Dwarf Fortress’ killer world where everything should have the ability to kill everything else.  They’re just too simple to be included in Dwarf Fortress at this point.  They’re far too durable with their homogeneous sponge body and there’s nothing vulnerable about them except their dependency on being an aquatic creature.  Although I do find undead sponges incredibly comical.
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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #110 on: February 25, 2012, 05:08:38 pm »
I disagree. Sponges ARE animals, but what is lacking in their execution is a pulping mechanism. Once Toady implements that, sponges will make much more sense.

For now, we should enjoy the show.
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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #111 on: February 25, 2012, 09:03:33 pm »
If i have a waterline that is only 2 or 3 hight (iirc that was the save hight for walking over a tile) would the sponge still drown? I could see a wet trench with hip high water acting as entrance.
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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #112 on: February 25, 2012, 09:19:57 pm »
Quote from: Heph on February 25, 2012, 09:03:33 pm
If i have a waterline that is only 2 or 3 hight (iirc that was the save hight for walking over a tile) would the sponge still drown? I could see a wet trench with hip high water acting as entrance.

I just tested a giant sponge in a 3/7 water tile in the arena and it did drown.  You’ll need a water level of 4/7 or higher to keep the giant sponge alive.
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« Reply #113 on: February 26, 2012, 12:56:22 am »
I'm sad that the result of hacking at a sponge doesn't allow the dwarves to soap up more luxuriously.

Yet.
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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #114 on: February 26, 2012, 03:04:33 am »
It's interesting that after all this the sponge or giant sponge doesn't have a wiki page jet....
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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #115 on: February 26, 2012, 03:51:46 am »
I wonder how terrifying a were-sponge would be... but it's an aquatic animal right? those can't turn into werecreatures that I know of.  :-\
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Quote from: Deus Machina on May 22, 2011, 06:14:35 am
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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #116 on: February 26, 2012, 03:56:28 am »
Quote from: Aspgren on February 26, 2012, 03:51:46 am
I wonder how terrifying a were-sponge would be... but it's an aquatic animal right? those can't turn into werecreatures that I know of.  :-\

'The peasant transforms into a giant sponge!'
'The peasant has drowned!'

I see why you cant be were-aquatic.
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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #117 on: February 26, 2012, 04:29:47 am »
Is that for sure? Because a werewhale would be hilarious. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to me that you could use raws to confirm/rule out this one as they don't seem to include a list of werecreatures - you'd have to actually find one.
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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #118 on: February 26, 2012, 04:31:03 am »
Unless you gave a secondary Wereism disease, except modded in for Carp only, and they're the Were-Aquacreatures.
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Re: Beware the Giant Sponge
« Reply #119 on: February 26, 2012, 04:53:19 am »
make all carps were-sponges.
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