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Wait for Next Version, Use current (.40.24,) or use older release (.34.11?)

Wait for the next release. I want usable mugs damn it!
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We can use the current one. I like the big trees and slightly smarter dorfs.
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I'll take .34.11 thanks. I want to know I'll get to kill things for sure.
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Author Topic: [34.11] Spearbreakers - It shudders and begins to move  (Read 2198237 times)

Talvieno

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Re: Spearbreakers - Madness. Mayhem. Mugs. (34.11)
« Reply #6390 on: November 15, 2012, 02:43:13 pm »

Thanks, Splint, and great story post. :P Lol at the Orodogoth reference, I caught it. Orod will be pleased. I'm greatly looking forwards to seeing what The Master manages to do. :D (I doubt he can kill the fort, even if he tries. We have Fischer, after all.)


And... I'll try not to overfry myself. I've been working since around 10 this morning (five hours straight, holy shit), so I think I'm going to take a break now. Only 15 50-post pages left. I guess I'm halfway there.

Splint, you mentioned that there was a third Vanya pic that you worked on, but were never satisfied with... Do you think you might PM it to me? I'd love to have it, even if it didn't get posted in-thread.

we'll just assume that was an unlucky skulker....
Also, agreed on this.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2012, 02:45:02 pm by Talvieno »
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Re: Spearbreakers - Madness. Mayhem. Mugs. (34.11)
« Reply #6391 on: November 15, 2012, 03:36:45 pm »

splint? you do know that you are awesome, right?
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« Reply #6392 on: November 15, 2012, 04:08:53 pm »

Not awesome man. But I appreciate the compliment all the same.

EDIT: @ Talvieno - I don't think I have it anymore as I tend to scrap things I'm not happy with.

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« Reply #6393 on: November 15, 2012, 05:06:55 pm »

Personally, I think that The Master's return was due to how so many dwarves in the fort started reading those necro-tomes.  that could have created a build-up of necromantic energy or something like that.  I theorize that such a thing also is the reason why the different things that can happen in evil biomes.  That, of course, means part of the fort is a prime location to use necromancy.

What do you guys think of this explanation?
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Re: Spearbreakers - Madness. Mayhem. Mugs. (34.11)
« Reply #6394 on: November 15, 2012, 05:29:03 pm »

Needs more mugs.

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Re: Spearbreakers - Madness. Mayhem. Mugs. (34.11)
« Reply #6395 on: November 15, 2012, 06:03:47 pm »

Personally, I think that The Master's return was due to how so many dwarves in the fort started reading those necro-tomes.  that could have created a build-up of necromantic energy or something like that.  I theorize that such a thing also is the reason why the different things that can happen in evil biomes.  That, of course, means part of the fort is a prime location to use necromancy.

What do you guys think of this explanation?

I like that. when Talvi and Terrahex got together, both users of black magic, the build up had to go somewhere.
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« Reply #6396 on: November 15, 2012, 06:30:22 pm »

EDIT: @ Talvieno - I don't think I have it anymore as I tend to scrap things I'm not happy with.
Noooooooooo. :( If you do happen to come across it, even as a WIP, send it my way, though. I do like your art, and I'd greatly value any related to my characters, understandably.

Personally, I think that The Master's return was due to how so many dwarves in the fort started reading those necro-tomes.  that could have created a build-up of necromantic energy or something like that.  I theorize that such a thing also is the reason why the different things that can happen in evil biomes.  That, of course, means part of the fort is a prime location to use necromancy.

What do you guys think of this explanation?
Stroke of genius, SoulSlicer. I think it makes perfect sense, and it explains quite a bit otherwise, too.

Something Terrahex and I have been mulling over: Black magic (goblin/necromancer) requires you to read tomes to learn. Reading these tomes leaves runes on your skin, which remain until cut, i.e., the skin bleeds beneath them. The runes are needed to cast the spell. A very knowledgeable dark spellcaster would probably have these rune-tattoos everywhere. (I also have a feeling that overusing the spells would burn (literally) the runes into your skin, possibly causing pain, infections, and/or death (if the person isn't immortal).)
    Lighter magic doesn't take runes, and the tomes in which it's contained (if it is at all) don't confer any special abilities to the reader. Rather, the spell is cast like: "Armok (god name), Megafire Apocalypse (spell incantation)!"  (Implying that you're calling on your god for aid.) The more you're on your god's good side, the more practice you have, and the more willpower you're putting into it, the stronger the spell. Overusing spells annoys your god, and bigger spells annoy them faster. If you annoy them enough, the spells might backfire, or simply not work at all. Overusing "Megafire Apocalypse" would probably be a bad idea, for instance, while you could safely spam "Heal minor scratch" for quite a while before having to worry about annoying your god. :P This also makes the bigger spells much harder to practice with, making it so nobody can get insta-overpowered.
    We were trying to come up with ways to keep magic from being overpowered. These seem some very reasonable drawbacks, and could also explain why the majority of dwarves don't know spells, apart from possible taboos.
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Re: Spearbreakers - Madness. Mayhem. Mugs. (34.11)
« Reply #6397 on: November 15, 2012, 06:36:33 pm »

Quite the logical explanation to magic. And I'll have a look. If I don't I can always draw you something else.

EDIT: Yeah no dice. Just the skulker and extant armored up versions here in the thread.

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Re: Spearbreakers - Madness. Mayhem. Mugs. (34.11)
« Reply #6398 on: November 15, 2012, 06:49:17 pm »

hey tavi, is excessive use soy... 200 times a day or like once a day for 25 years?
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« Reply #6399 on: November 15, 2012, 07:00:06 pm »

I imagine gods with few followers won't mind semi-regular usage (such as a battlemage as a random example who gets into fights every three to five days lets say) if the follower in question is one of the only ones calling upon them for aid. In this lets say a god has a 100 followers but only three invoke thier god's wrath and send it at thier enemies. That god probably wouldn't give a damn so long as it isn't constantly every day. Wherease a god with say a 1000 followers with half of them using combat magic daily would probably get pretty pissed off pretty quick.

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« Reply #6400 on: November 15, 2012, 07:31:58 pm »

guessed. i meant with runes, i.e. large uses over large amounts of time possibly negating the nastiest results on the user.
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Re: Spearbreakers - Madness. Mayhem. Mugs. (34.11)
« Reply #6401 on: November 15, 2012, 08:30:49 pm »

Siege everybody!

Suggestions now!
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« Reply #6402 on: November 15, 2012, 08:31:26 pm »

What's the attacking force consist of?

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« Reply #6403 on: November 15, 2012, 08:34:34 pm »

guessed. i meant with runes, i.e. large uses over large amounts of time possibly negating the nastiest results on the user.
well I didn't think about that, but probably would have to use it a lot. the recharge for the spell basically negates this though.

Story time!

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« Reply #6404 on: November 15, 2012, 08:34:51 pm »

a shitload of spawn!
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