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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4620 on: January 23, 2013, 08:25:11 am »

If we could not call people retards, Sheb.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4621 on: January 23, 2013, 08:27:26 am »

Well, I usually don't, but I make an exception for extinct species.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4622 on: January 23, 2013, 08:27:49 am »

No exceptions.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4623 on: January 23, 2013, 08:29:24 am »

Neanderthals were people too.
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« Reply #4624 on: January 23, 2013, 08:36:01 am »

Depend on your definition of people. And given that neither you nor I ever met one (except for the 3% of their DNA that's lurking in my mitochondrias), we don't know. Maybe they were smart as us, and just lost out by sheer luck or inneficient metabolism. Or maybe they were really inferior if only technologically and got stomped out of Europe by a more versatile and intelligent species. We don't know.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4625 on: January 23, 2013, 08:41:02 am »

Why exactly are we not calling people retards anyway?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4626 on: January 23, 2013, 08:45:16 am »

Retard is actually a highly offensive word in the UK, believe it or not. Or at least it was until it gained traction in social media.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4627 on: January 23, 2013, 08:47:13 am »

Apparently to the point that 50,000 years is still too soon to call people (or non-people) retards.
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« Reply #4628 on: January 23, 2013, 08:52:45 am »

Apparently to the point that 50,000 years is still too soon to call people (or non-people) retards.

For some people (myself not included) it's a slur. I mean, granted, their cognitive ability would be "retarded" by their lack of development when compared with modern humans.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4629 on: January 23, 2013, 09:02:59 am »

Oh, feel free to replace retard by a more politically correct alternative. It's true that not bein a native speaker myself, I sometime don't realize thr loaded meaning of some words.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4630 on: January 23, 2013, 09:03:42 am »

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4631 on: January 23, 2013, 09:06:46 am »

In the context of mentally ill people it's really offensive.

In the context of neanderthals it makes no sense at all because they don't have any kind of developmental disorder.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4632 on: January 23, 2013, 09:06:58 am »

Yes, it's a slur. Not exactly one against a dominant group, either. This is not 4chan, and though it shouldn't matter, some here will have had family been affected by it.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4633 on: January 23, 2013, 09:09:16 am »

Well, I apologize if I've hurt anyone, this was not my intention.

Anyway, have you noticed that Obama again spoke about gays during the inauguration speech? I feel like the US really passed that turning point where being pro-gay is more or less the normal thing to do. I'm sure than in a decade or so homophobia will be considered as racism is now.
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« Reply #4634 on: January 23, 2013, 09:15:22 am »

I'm sure than in a decade or so homophobia will be considered as racism is now.
I sure hope not. Homophobia being considered bad? Yes please. Homophobia being considered equal to Joseph Mengele and Ubisoft eating mentally disabled babies of impoverished minority families? No thanks.
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