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Author Topic: Kobold Invaders Exist  (Read 3304 times)

mill1223

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Kobold Invaders Exist
« on: March 11, 2012, 11:21:34 pm »

Just letting the fans know.
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Eric Blank

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Re: Kobold Invaders Exist
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2012, 01:29:12 am »

The heck do you mean? Kobolds have always sent ambushes and theives! Are you talking about sieges? Because that really would be unusual.
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Re: Kobold Invaders Exist
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2012, 01:33:28 am »

Ambush is news to me.
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Re: Kobold Invaders Exist
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 01:36:53 am »

Been that way for a while, yeah. They only send ambushes if you let them steal enough stuff, though. So if you've been successfully repelling thieves until now, no surprise that you haven't seen it before.
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Re: Kobold Invaders Exist
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 03:00:27 am »

So I should make a stockpile of junk outside to get more FUN?

Do they steal anything or should it be something specific?
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Re: Kobold Invaders Exist
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2012, 03:25:23 am »

So if i set an unguarded stockpile and fill it with a couple of bins of crafts for them to steal i will get ambushes?Will this also make goblins stronger?
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2012, 04:00:30 am »

The other day somebody mentioned that he hauls "useless" artifacts like crafts to the edge of his map so they get stolen by kobolds and increase the chance of bigger kobold ambushes. I didnīt try that myself yet but it sounds reasonable.
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Re: Kobold Invaders Exist
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2012, 05:32:33 am »

I've had a kobold ambush before.

They're abysmally weak, only marginally stronger than meleeing elves. Back when I was a newb I had a kobold ambush outnumber my noobling militia 1.5:1 and the nooblings fought off the kobolds with one casualty. This being 31.08 before I knew how to train people in the military.

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Re: Kobold Invaders Exist
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2012, 05:42:33 am »

I've heard they are the only civ other than dwarves which can use steel, though. Which could be nasty depending on what sort of equipment they bring.

Do kobold ambushers wear armour/use weapons like a proper goblin siege? Or is it just a dagger and nothing else, like the thieves?
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Re: Kobold Invaders Exist
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2012, 05:48:25 am »

I believe they come wielding their chosen weapon, and a small copper breastplate, with their loincloth. I'm not certain though, don't quote me on this- i'm basing it on memory alone.

Their bowman were pretty nasty in early DF2010, and with the recent bow buff they're even more deadly. I'd tread carefully if their ambush is mainly bowman, but meleeing Kobolds are surprisingly weak.

You could probably benefit from capturing them, by having a series of animal powered watchtowers with traps all around them. OPERATION SAVE THE KOBOLDS IS NOW USELESS BUT IS STILL A GO!

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Re: Kobold Invaders Exist
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2012, 07:54:51 am »

Pretty damn sure they can use steel.

And this is very old news, i think it was here since the beginning of the game.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 07:56:43 am by Naryar »
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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2012, 11:19:59 am »

Yes, this has technically been around for a long time, but for most of 0.31.x, kobolds were very rare, as they had a tendency to starve to death during world gen. 40d had kobolds much the same as .034 but if you've not played that long you're not likely to know that.
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Re: Kobold Invaders Exist
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2012, 11:28:10 am »

That's the main issue.  Kobolds have always sent proper armies if given enough loot, it's just that for the past year vanilla kobolds didn't exist so no one had a lot of experience with them.

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Re: Kobold Invaders Exist
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2012, 02:28:31 pm »

Pretty much the only people who did have experience with them, were the ones religiously adding [NO_EAT][NO_DRINK] to Kobolds :3

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Re: Kobold Invaders Exist
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2012, 02:33:56 pm »

Kobolds 'use' steel because the game handwaves that they must have stolen it somehow. They're a scavenger race, any civ their 'home cave' is situated near enough to handwave as 'within scavenge distance', they'll have access to equipment from that race. I once modded in gold and platinum ammunition, thinking I was safe as I removed bows and crossbows from goblins and other races. Kobold archers came with highly expensive and dense arrows to kill my adventurer.
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