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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.34.08 Released
« Reply #120 on: May 16, 2012, 09:00:28 am »

Does it work if it's changed to BLOCK ?
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.34.08 Released
« Reply #121 on: May 16, 2012, 01:01:38 pm »

Can't wait to try out the update!

I can already envision the acceleration tunnel and new prisoner occupation: Test Pilot
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.34.08 Released
« Reply #122 on: May 16, 2012, 02:42:01 pm »

Falling units also count as 'falling objects' when calculating 'drop damage' now. I was in the arena, dropping elephants on same-team test subjects. Sure enough the victims take 3 "<body part> takes the full force of the impact" rolls, the same as the elephants dropping on them. This was with a 3-ish z-level drop.

Are drop pods still viable? Do falling creatures still take damage?
Drop pods NO LONGER VIABLE. Both the falling unit and the unit on the ground take damage when they collide. Darn it how do I edit the arena to have a higher sky limit...
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.34.08 Released
« Reply #123 on: May 16, 2012, 05:51:35 pm »

Falling units also count as 'falling objects' when calculating 'drop damage' now. I was in the arena, dropping elephants on same-team test subjects. Sure enough the victims take 3 "<body part> takes the full force of the impact" rolls, the same as the elephants dropping on them. This was with a 3-ish z-level drop.

Are drop pods still viable? Do falling creatures still take damage?
Drop pods NO LONGER VIABLE. Both the falling unit and the unit on the ground take damage when they collide. Darn it how do I edit the arena to have a higher sky limit...
Damn. :( Dwarven Deep Strike would've been so amazing.

I guess we'll have to "settle" on raining anvils and *lead mine cart*s full of ‼lignite blocks‼ on the enemy...

Hm, do Vampires suffer pain?  If not, they could probably fight your enemies even with a broken leg from the fall.  And Werebeasts heal everything upon transformation, so dropping dwarves shortly before they transform would be quite a powerful tactic.

Gobbo: Ha ha, stoopid dwarf smashed self on fall.  Dat stoopid.
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« Reply #124 on: May 16, 2012, 06:39:09 pm »

That would be powerfull.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.34.08 Released
« Reply #125 on: May 16, 2012, 08:18:10 pm »

What I've seen in my prisoner drops is that the falling creature won't take any damage if it lands on top of another creature from heights of up to 14 z levels and that 14 z-level falls don't certainly kill creatures that fall directly on to the ground.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.34.08 Released
« Reply #126 on: May 16, 2012, 10:08:23 pm »

In other news: Minimalist challenge build only takes one copper nugget now.

Edit: 4 in 25 lignite chunks actually produce. :-/
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.34.08 Released
« Reply #127 on: May 16, 2012, 10:18:09 pm »

Shouldn't clay reactions produce more stuff now that stone produces more blocks? Bricks are totally pointless atm. This is a shame; clay currently serves no purpose. It's just a waste of charcoal.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.34.08 Released
« Reply #128 on: May 16, 2012, 10:29:32 pm »

Well, tracks are surprisingly easy to make (I'm designing in my head halls filled with automatic mazes of minecarts resembling something from a Zelda dungeon... because the thought of an overabundance of crossing paths amuses me), but I haven't quite got minecarts running on my fort for lack of spare time this week. I'm looking forward to seeing how tracks and/or carts affect trade caravan wagons, if at all (I would expect them to, but maybe this is for now a way to protect your trade depot with minimal danger to the caravan wagons? I'll find out, because I'd rather play with it than read the forums).

I do, however, have a bug report up on mantis, for what it's worth. http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=5903 (I know, this isn't a bug reporting thread, but I figured that after Mantis itself the next best place to mention issues is somewhere directly related to the release.)

(Okay, I admit it, I'm lazy, only thought to mention the bug on the forums after I'd stayed up as late as possible with my job to get up for in the morning... still trying to be helpful here.)

At any rate, it strikes me that for fortress mode this whole minecart/hauling thing, along with the miscellaneous improvements/features that've come with it, could be for fortress mode a bigger change (once the kinks are smoothed out) than 0.34.01 with the necromancers that only show up if you're unlucky and the evil biomes that players not up for the challenge avoid rather than seek. (Hey, I'll get there eventually.)

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Shouldn't clay reactions produce more stuff now that stone produces more blocks? Bricks are totally pointless atm. This is a shame; clay currently serves no purpose. It's just a waste of charcoal.
Bricks aren't pointless if they multiply the quantity of stone you have to build with. Of course, you get less stone than you would before with well-trained miners, so it kinda rounds out in the end -- ordinary stone has been penalized, but bricks now have a reason to exist because they compensate for that penalty.

Agreed that clay stuff should be more interesting/useful. It's on the long list of things you can make for no reason but to sell (or satisfy the occassional wild mandate), which isn't typically an issue with a self-sustaining fort in which you can sell whatever you happen to get in your production cycle that you don't need.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.34.08 Released
« Reply #129 on: May 17, 2012, 01:08:07 am »

What I've seen in my prisoner drops is that the falling creature won't take any damage if it lands on top of another creature from heights of up to 14 z levels and that 14 z-level falls don't certainly kill creatures that fall directly on to the ground.
That was true up to the previous version. Are you claiming you've run an experiment with these results in this version?
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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.34.08 Released
« Reply #130 on: May 17, 2012, 02:42:13 am »

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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.34.08 Released
« Reply #131 on: May 17, 2012, 03:22:43 am »

Could someone test whether doors count as walls, and would make a minecart turn on a crossing? If that works, it would allow a lot of interesting mechanics.
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