Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[kaenneth]

I fear that this is going to be a complex update, taking months now; I was hoping to get the basic haulers carrying multiple items functionality quickly; but adding a mining overhall means we may have to wait a while.   

[MrWiggles]

Mining isn't being overhauled, it's being tweaked.

And making minecarts physics is probably what's going to be taking the bulk of time for this release.

[Naryar]

New devlog ! And pretty parabolic movement ! And dwarven rollercoasters !

In before we reach relativistic speed minecarts by letting minecarts go down an absurd amount of Z-levels.

[xdarkcodex]

We can make dwarven theme parks now, complete with a zoo of dangerous and exotic beast.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Ooh, I just got an idea: If you could put dwarves in mine-carts, and had a bunch of spares, you could launch dwarves into pits full of wild badgers!

Or, better, have the militia dive into combat on minecart-cannon-thingys!

[NW_Kohaku]

We can make dwarven theme parks now, complete with a zoo of dangerous and exotic beast.

Plus magmafalls and cotton candy and prepared fly brain roasts *ahem* I mean "fresh hamburgers", and those rides where you get lifted up and then suddenly drop.

... You know, one of these days, they need to install the bungee cords in the dwarven version of the rides so that we get more repeat customers for the sudden drop ride.

[Stoup]

Is anybody else impressed with the ludicrous speed at which these updates are coming out? I mean, three days ago Toady mentioned that he had finished updating parts of the hauling code, and now he's got minecarts with proper physics, as well as tracks to put them on.

[Mr Frog]

Is anybody else impressed with the ludicrous speed at which these updates are coming out? I mean, three days ago Toady mentioned that he had finished updating parts of the hauling code, and now he's got minecarts with proper physics, as well as tracks to put them on.

This has been on the development page for about 3 years, so I'm guessing he already has most of it worked out. It's probably just a matter of implementing it.

[NW_Kohaku]

You have to keep in mind that some code is easier than others. 

Toady spent the vast bulk of his time in the last release working out the basic structure of how interactions worked, but the giant procedural cities took a few weeks. 

He also did only a relatively minor tweak to hauling (and hasn't touched stacking yet, presumably) - basically, what the code seems to do is look for hauling jobs that are all going to the same stockpile, and grouping those jobs together.  There's still more to do after that before you can say you've truly perfected postman route problem hauling, although it is to be seen just how far he will go in that regard. 

The further you go, the more potential FPS inefficiency, but the greater the dwarf task completion efficiency. 

[dizzyelk]

So am I the only one who, reading about minecarts having parabolic arcs and crashing into the ground started wondering how hard it would be to set one up on rails on a looooooonnnnngggg incline to nothing and hit goblins with it? In an aiming sense, of course.

[xdarkcodex]

We can test it with a friendly game of bowling with the goblins.

[612DwarfAvenue]

So am I the only one who, reading about minecarts having parabolic arcs and crashing into the ground started wondering how hard it would be to set one up on rails on a looooooonnnnngggg incline to nothing and hit goblins with it? In an aiming sense, of course.

This is the Bay12 forums, is it not? I'm already thinking of setting up minecart launchers in a cliff face, to deal with sieges. Dwarves hop in the minecarts, they then go down a path to get some speed, before shooting out the hole in the cliff face and hopefully crashing down into the invaders, and then the Dwarves themselves get out and do their thing.

Basically, horizontally-launching Dwarven drop pods.

Although, depending on whether or not there's fall damage while in minecarts, you could possibly have them drop down from the sky proper, by setting up what is essentially an Orbital Magma Platform, exept replace the magma with minecarts.

And hey, if that fails, why not load the carts up with some ignited coal, send them on their way and have them fly off and spill their contents all over some grass, to burn the invaders with HOT DWARVEN RETRIBUTION. Bonus points if you instead use ignited corpses of previous invaders of the same race (meaning, Goblin corpses for Goblins attacking you, Elves for Elf attacks, and so on).


Look at that, coming up with ideas for something that's not even fully in just yet.

[Calathar]

It sounds like minecarts are projectiles.

I've put off updating the rest of the projectiles

.

But, if units that fly without wings get parabolic paths, it sounds like bridges maybe useful catapults for throwing your dwarves over walls and holes.

[Anathema]

But, if units that fly without wings get parabolic paths, it sounds like bridges maybe useful catapults for throwing your dwarves over walls and holes.

Or you could just.. build the bridge over the hole .. you know what, never mind. Your way is better.

[NW_Kohaku]

But, if units that fly without wings get parabolic paths, it sounds like bridges maybe useful catapults for throwing your dwarves over walls and holes.

Or you could just.. build the bridge over the hole .. you know what, never mind. Your way is better.

Yeah, but some creatures just aren't so easily convinced to become living projectiles.  Or dead projectiles. 

Nothing like flinging a mountain of goblin skulls at the goblins as the first "warning shot", just to let them know that their corpses will be used for maximum efficiency - not a single part goes to anything but Fun!