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Reality, The Universe and the World. Which will save us from AI?

Reality
- 8 (61.5%)
Universe
- 2 (15.4%)
The World
- 3 (23.1%)

Total Members Voted: 13


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Author Topic: What will save us from AI? Reality, the Universe or The World $ Place your bet.  (Read 10582 times)

King Zultan

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Guess that means I need to work on my handwriting because right now it's really shit and hard to read.
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martinuzz

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The New York Times decided today to explicitly forbid the use of it's archives for training AI.
They changed their user agreement so that anyone using their archive for AI training purposes will face fines or other unspecified legal punishment.

I am not sure if I can agree with this.
If all media with at least some journalistic quality standards deny access to AI training, we will end up with AI trained by 4Chan
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http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=73719.msg1830479#msg1830479

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Yeah one would hope something commonly accepted as the "paper of record", would be prime training material. By the time society will be done curtailing this "threat", it will be worse than toothless it will be spam.
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Well there are always opensource models that can be distributed through torrent. Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
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EuchreJack

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The New York Times decided today to explicitly forbid the use of it's archives for training AI.
They changed their user agreement so that anyone using their archive for AI training purposes will face fines or other unspecified legal punishment.

I am not sure if I can agree with this.
If all media with at least some journalistic quality standards deny access to AI training, we will end up with AI trained by 4Chan

Ah, then it might have ethics! The HORROR!

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So this was 7 years old; I wonder if there is anything more modern? Would it be better?

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Today I tapped on a clickbait news article recommended by my phone, despite being fully aware the folly of such endeavors. Just as I started skimming through the nonsense, searching for anything that resembled useful information, I noticed a prompt near the bottom of the screen; Google wanted me to let their AI summarize the article. A few seconds later some 10+ pages of excessively padded bullshit had been boiled down to 3 short bullet-points.

This is honestly the best thing since ad-blockers. I mean, it's terrible that we've come to a point where we even need something like this...but we do need this, and now it's here.
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So this was 7 years old; I wonder if there is anything more modern? Would it be better?

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Yes, the difference between now and even 3 years ago in AI is massive and categorical. For instance these AI generated, voiced, and drawn south park episodes.
Modern AI can easily hold conversations on a wide variety of topics in such a way that say, five years ago they would have passed the turing test.
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That's it. We've finally crossed over and become the nation of Da Orky Boyz.

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AI is an ill-defined field that encompasses everything from statistics, to the algorithms that make your phone's capacitive touchscreen register the correct inputs most of the time, to the current hype-train AI that operates intelligently but can't work mechanically or know when to give up, to silicon-based people.

If you ask me, it's Humanity that'll save us from AI, just because nobody fucking knows what it means. The field needs to grow up and learn what it actually wants to be, because right now, all I'm seeing is a very loose conglomeration of words that serve the status quo. I despise OpenAI-brained garbage because its problem domain is unbounded yet its input resources are bounded, but I have sympathy for projects like Cursorless (voice recognition for code, but one that works and needs you to speak in a domain-specific language) because they know what they want out of the tech while happening to use the same generative pre-trained transformer ideas that the OpenAI clowns use.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2023, 09:40:10 pm by methylatedspirit »
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EuchreJack

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Today I tapped on a clickbait news article recommended by my phone, despite being fully aware the folly of such endeavors. Just as I started skimming through the nonsense, searching for anything that resembled useful information, I noticed a prompt near the bottom of the screen; Google wanted me to let their AI summarize the article. A few seconds later some 10+ pages of excessively padded bullshit had been boiled down to 3 short bullet-points.

This is honestly the best thing since ad-blockers. I mean, it's terrible that we've come to a point where we even need something like this...but we do need this, and now it's here.
Yeah, but sometimes the AI lies. It's entirely possible that article didn't say what the AI said, but rather the AI figured you would want it to say that, and just gave you what you wanted.
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