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Re: Star Wars [Warning: Spoilers inside!]
« Reply #1170 on: December 01, 2020, 01:15:50 pm »

Popquiz: where does Darth Vader poop?

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« Reply #1171 on: December 01, 2020, 02:10:18 pm »

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« Reply #1172 on: December 02, 2020, 04:42:20 am »

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1: In the EU, fighters and larger ships use thingys called "Inertial Dampeners" that can be dialed back to preference to provide g-force feedback for pilot feedback while limiting it to 99.9% or whatever the pilot prefers of it's natural effects. It's basically the explanation how pilots aren't flattened by inertia at such high speeds, and a way to cripple a small space craft. A pilot in one of Allston's X-wing series died due to g-force unconciousness when it was damaged.

As for how they do gravity, I forget. However by the time of the Empire repulsor technology was very advanced. In the EU craft could fly on repulsors up to a certain distance from another object, and they were used for landing and low speed VTOL stuff.

The EU had an ancient and massivve space station in the Correllian system named Centrepoint that
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In the X-Wing series the cockpits did not have gravity in a few scenes, though that scene it may have been damaged or unpowered in space as blood droplets were floating before the pilot engaged some kind of magnetic bubble seal in the orange jumpsuit good for a few minutes of cold vacuum exposure and was tractored into a corvette for treatment.

As to why the DS had to make that cumbersome approach in the first one I dunno. I guess maybe they were overconfident and were worried the Rebels might have some sort of STO weaponry to plink them with as they moved into range? I wouldn't want to tell Vader I scratched the paint on his new ride...

My favorite Star Wars character ever:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wedge_Antilles/Legends

I think Wraith Squadron would make for good movies; Allston was good at adding a dash of comedy to dark situations in a way that parallels moments in the Disney episodes such as BB8 or whatnot flying around due to not being strapped down. I describe the new episodes to myself as  more Pirates of the Carribean Star Wars rather than the more consistantly serious pre-Disney episodes (though those had their comedic moments too, it didn't seem a core aspect and Jar Jar wasn't beloved..) I think in comparison to the Rogue Squadron books as they are comparable with different writers, Wraith Squadron would make for a better Disney produced movie as Pirates moments have a better place in a story about competent misfits. Also Captain Darillion.

I think Karen Traviss's books set in the Old Republic about Stormtroopers was the best EU explanation for Stormtroopers. Unfortunately I wasn't able to read the full series, essentially the initial batch of clones from the Kaminoans or whatnot are drastically superior to later Stormtrooper generations engineered by Palpatine, as somehow they were flawed to the point that the original stormtroopers are shocked at their inaccuracy. While I can't cite this as I didn't finish the Traviss series, later EU books suggest Palpatine gave up on cloning eventually or at least minimized it's use and turned to normal recruitment at some point. The original clones had a drastically shortened lifespan but I think were still fertile; some possibly managed to pressure surviving Kaminoan scientists to correct their quickened aging and became part of the Mandalorian culture but I didn't have that book.

Also the first generation had better Stormtrooper armor; and the elite unit that are main characters in the Traviss series had further armor improvements based on Mandalorian beskar metal (since they were raised and trained by Mandalorian mercenaries, they adopted equipment and traditions. Beskar also happens to resist lightsabres...). It's been a while since I read it, but I'm somewhat confident it describes the devolution of standard equipment due to costs as well over the course of the Clone Wars in a way that made enough sense at the time.

EDIT: By the time of Palpatine I don't think Sith are speciesist personally, but Palpatine utilized it. The Sith in the very early EU were an actual species who were red skinned and had tentacles around their mouth. They were inherantly force sensitive as a species, however their first contact with force users came in the form of fleeing Dark Jedi who had lost a space war against the light side Jedi. As the Sith were universally force sensitive, they quickly dominated the Dark Jedi. Oddly, it seems they could crossbreed with the Dark Jedi whether naturally or not, and over the course of conflicts with the light side Jedi eventually the Sith weren't the species Sith but rather humans (and maybe other species too) following the Sith philosophy into the Old Republic era, where both sides and their governments rise and fall until the rule of 2 goes into effects and the focus isn't on open warfare, which drives the rule of 2 into hiding until Palpatine does his thing.

In the late EU,

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Re: Star Wars [Warning: Spoilers inside!]
« Reply #1173 on: December 02, 2020, 06:50:04 am »

The Sith in the very early EU were an actual species who were red skinned and had tentacles around their mouth.

Why not Zoidberg?
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« Reply #1174 on: December 02, 2020, 07:13:31 am »

A search for Zoidberg sith bears fruit:
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Dark Lord Zoidberg has a ring to it

I'm looking at the wiki and the EU extended farther than I thought; I only read up to Allston's final Star Wars book and final Wraith Squadron book, Mercy Kill I think it was; I got to the point where Han had backtracked the Falcon's history with his grandaughter; and Luke and Ben had discovered and confronted the big bad force monster in the post Caedus series. I guess it was fleshed out in other mediums? Here's one, appears to be a comic:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Legacy
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« Reply #1175 on: December 02, 2020, 03:48:02 pm »

The Legacy stuff is actually really good. It's set a lot further after mainstream Star Wars, but it's got great characters and factions. FTW Imperial Knights and the Fel Empire in general.
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« Reply #1176 on: December 02, 2020, 03:49:30 pm »

Caedus was a beast.
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« Reply #1177 on: January 14, 2021, 09:33:59 am »

WAT?! No one told me!

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-rogue-squadron-pilots-we-want-in-patty-jenkins-star-1846003856

https://nypost.com/2020/12/11/patty-jenkins-lands-new-star-wars-movie-rogue-squadron/

That's pretty awesome. I don't know who Patty Jenkins is but

Wow a Rogue Squadron movie. I thought I'd never see that. I'm hoping it's the same characters as the Rogue Squadron legends books; I don't mind if the missions are different, though I did like the books such as the taking of Coruscant. If they do bring the full squadron in, along with Wedge there is other character potential, Hobbie Klivan is already a lesser meme as a mournful pessimist (he had a line in the original movies acting as such); Tycho got a nice storyline as a suspected brainwashee, and Corran Horn is pretty cool too. He was a former Corellian sector space police officer fighter pilot who IRC left because of dissatisfaction with corruption. After his career in Rogue Squadron, he becomes a Jedi later in his own book series. I want to say I, Jedi was one of those but I could be wrong. His lightsaber was special; he could turn the handle and it extended further and narrowed; he also had a rare force ability inherited from his Jedi ancestor (grandfather? forgot) to absorb and then release amplified energy at the cost of being really bad at telekinesis in normal conditions and using the ability is generally really bad for him. For example, he is stabbed by a lightsaber in one of the books, but absorbs it's energy and it flickers out while he does a telekinesis supermove. He was one of the Jedi who survive all the way though the EU to the end of the books, and was a full Master in Luke's order.
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Re: Star Wars [Warning: Spoilers inside!]
« Reply #1178 on: January 16, 2021, 05:29:34 pm »

Rogue/Wraith Squadron was easily the best material from the entire EU, and if they fuck it up it'll make the shitstorm that surrounded the prequels look like a water balloon fight in comparison. That said if they keep it in the vein/feel of Mandalorian it ought to be fantastic.

I am excited AF tho.
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