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Jeoshua

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[WIP] DF WORD Project - Adding 400 words
« on: April 28, 2012, 09:25:02 pm »
I am working on extending the language files to include most everything in the Basic English Dictionary, and already have the words that A) are not in the Language Unlocked files yet and B) are thematically alright to go into the game.  IE. No "Computer" or "Helicopter", but most of the rest of the words therein.

Some of the omissions are GLARING actually, like the absense in the raw files for "month" or "industry"... words that Dwarves and Humans would have to use routinely yet are not even translated in the slightest.

Now, here comes the problem...

... It's over 400 words long.

I am going to need some help here to actually create the word definitions and symbol files.  I'd like to do them in the style of "Language Unlocked", with only english-correct grammar.  ie No Rear Adjectives or Adverbs, and no plural compounds at the front.

Who wants to help?  Who wants their forts to be able to be named "The Able-Community of Industry?"  Who wants their squads to be able to be named "The Engine of Change"?  Civilizations named "The Association of Profit"?

If we get this completed, all this and more will actually be possible!

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Note: Some of these words will not actually be necessary or wanted.  It's a long list and throwing some of them out, on the grounds that a similar word already exists, is perfectly acceptable.  Some could maybe use some adjustment as well, like "Gun" being "Cross-bow"... or "Space" being "Heaven"... then again maybe not.

Pick a word.  One, maybe two... however many you want.  And add the proper tags for it and repost.

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Language - Language tokens
« Last Edit: May 17, 2012, 07:26:18 pm by Jeoshua »
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Re: [WIP] Help with extending the language barriers
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 09:42:18 pm »
Not an English major, but I guess I will be when I'm done with this.


[WORD:BAG]
     [NOUN:bag:bags]
          [THE_NOUN_SING]
     [THE_NOUN_PLUR]
     [THE_COMPOUND_NOUN_PLUR]#Hand-bag?#
   
   [WORD:BASKET]
     [NOUN:basket:baskets]
     [THE_NOUN_SING]
     [THE_NOUN_PLUR]

   [WORD:BEFORE]
     [PREFIX:before]
    
   [WORD:BEHAVIOR]
    [NOUN:behavior:behaviors]
    [ADJ:behavioral]
« Last Edit: April 30, 2012, 10:33:01 pm by DVNO »
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Re: [WIP] Help with extending the language barriers
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 11:52:22 pm »
Main post updated.
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Re: [WIP] DF WORD Project - Adding 400 words
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2012, 08:03:25 pm »
-bump-

Come on people, this is a good idea after all.
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Re: [WIP] DF WORD Project - Adding 400 words
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2012, 06:03:54 am »
Ahh, I wish I had time to contribute to this. I don't even have time to update Language Unlocked itself. :( But I fully support this effort. Good luck with it!
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Re: [WIP] DF WORD Project - Adding 400 words
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2012, 03:09:55 am »
You want to do a repetitive, objectively-defined task to a large number of items?  Sounds like a perfect job for a program.  I'm looking into using a data dump from OmegaWiki to either format selected words or just create one massive language file, but I'm unfamiliar with SQL.  I'll update if any progress is made with that.
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Re: [WIP] DF WORD Project - Adding 400 words
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2012, 09:34:43 am »
But you would need a database to read out the classes... a phyton script could do the writing, but how does it know what is a noun, an adjective and so on ?
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Re: [WIP] DF WORD Project - Adding 400 words
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2012, 11:25:42 pm »
So the task is to look up each word in a dictionary to determine what part of speech it is? A program could do that...
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Re: [WIP] DF WORD Project - Adding 400 words
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2012, 01:29:53 am »
In that case please be so kind and write this program ?
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Re: [WIP] DF WORD Project - Adding 400 words
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2012, 04:11:52 am »
[WORD:MACE]
   [NOUN:mace:maces]
      [FRONT_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING]
      [REAR_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING]
      [THE_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING]
      [REAR_COMPOUND_NOUN_PLUR]
      [THE_NOUN_SING]
      [OF_NOUN_SING]
      [THE_NOUN_PLUR]
      [OF_NOUN_PLUR]

I've always thought it a little silly that they have this weapon, but no word for it.
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Re: [WIP] DF WORD Project - Adding 400 words
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2012, 03:00:15 pm »
I'm claiming A through C
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Re: [WIP] DF WORD Project - Adding 400 words
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2012, 03:07:04 pm »
[WORD:MAUL]
   [NOUN:maul:mauls]
      [FRONT_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING]
      [REAR_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING]
      [THE_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING]
      [REAR_COMPOUND_NOUN_PLUR]
      [THE_NOUN_SING]
      [OF_NOUN_SING]
      [THE_NOUN_PLUR]
      [OF_NOUN_PLUR]

[WORD:ZWEIHANDER]
   [NOUN:zweihander:zweihanders]
      [FRONT_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING]
      [REAR_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING]
      [THE_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING]
      [REAR_COMPOUND_NOUN_PLUR]
      [THE_NOUN_SING]
      [OF_NOUN_SING]
      [THE_NOUN_PLUR]
      [OF_NOUN_PLUR]

[WORD:HALBERD]
   [NOUN:halberd:halberds]
      [FRONT_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING]
      [REAR_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING]
      [THE_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING]
      [REAR_COMPOUND_NOUN_PLUR]
      [THE_NOUN_SING]
      [OF_NOUN_SING]
      [THE_NOUN_PLUR]
      [OF_NOUN_PLUR]

@OP: I think if you give some templates for nouns, verbs and adjectives then people would have it easier filling them out with appropriate words.
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Re: [WIP] DF WORD Project - Adding 400 words
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2012, 03:15:38 pm »
Quote from: Meph on May 17, 2012, 01:29:53 am
In that case please be so kind and write this program ?
I've got other things to do than work on somebody else's Mod. Like play the new release, or try to coax a TrueType font to be 16 by 16.

But I can describe how to do it. libcurl can be used to fetch a webpage. A webservice works better, since it'll give you xml, but I don't know of a free dictionary webservice. Then use parse the page using regular expressions, an XML or HTML parser as needed. Regular expressions are probably sufficient. Python is a good choice for a language.
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Re: [WIP] DF WORD Project - Adding 400 words
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2012, 03:25:51 pm »
YOU would't be upset If I added a few more words would you?

Such as
[WORD:COB] --a male swan. --a short legged horse --a building materiel made of mud and straw
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Re: [WIP] DF WORD Project - Adding 400 words
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2012, 03:31:22 pm »
@King Mir: Excuse me, but I am just a modder, not a programmer. I cant write Python... but I understand what you mean.
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