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[simonthedwarf]

I caught them without cheating - at the meager cost of just a bunch of useless fish dissectors and other ingrates.

In fact I've never been so happy with my population, every fort should have a dragon to catch so you can weed out these undesirables in a meaningful and productive way.

HOWEVER I AM A BIT WORRIED, because the dragon is sitting on the next box (claimed) and there's a egg inside (door is locked to the room) but no dragon babies yet. But if she is sitting on it... the daddy dragon should impregnate her right?

[Eric Blank]

If there is at least one male out in open air, not in a cage, when a female claims a nest box and lays her egg(s), the eggs will always be fertilized. Unless, of course, the creature is unable to breed in the first place...

I've captured Zangu, at the cost of using obsidian walls to lock her in the capture zone before she made it through the door.

Now the ‼testing‼ can begin...

[i2amroy]

Unless, of course, the creature is unable to breed in the first place...

Which, unless Toady snuck some changes on us recently, is true.

I'm just going to tell you right now that the chances of your dragons actually having baby dragons is extremely slim. They will lay eggs, but the eggs won't hatch as far as we currently know. This can be fixed by adding [CHILD:X] to the dragon entry.

[simonthedwarf]

[CHILD:1] for example? 

[i2amroy]

[CHILD:1] for example? 

That would cause them to grow to adulthood after spending one year as a child, yes. There is a good chance that you will need to wait for the next batch of eggs after you add that token for the eggs to hatch though, and it still might take a fair amount of time before the eggs actually do hatch and become children.

[Eric Blank]

Unless, of course, the creature is unable to breed in the first place...

Which, unless Toady snuck some changes on us recently, is true.

I'm just going to tell you right now that the chances of your dragons actually having baby dragons is extremely slim. They will lay eggs, but the eggs won't hatch as far as we currently know. This can be fixed by adding [CHILD:X] to the dragon entry.

Exactly, but that's also exactly what we're testing, since dragons in worldgen will so willingly reproduce, I intend to find out if they will continue to do so. I understand it's unlikely, but if that's the case then it's to be assumed that either any creature can reproduce during worldgen regardless of the presence of a [CHILD:x] tag, or only mega- and semi-megabeasts can.

Edit: Ah crap I tried to transfer her to Slusa's cage, and she went balistic and my entire hovel lit up like a christmas tree. Spraying fire like a blind crossbowman.

She burned down the now-trained slusa's cage, who promptly ripped her throat out, killing her. So much for family bonds...

Savescumming. Need moar dargons

[simonthedwarf]

I've added the child tag after the first egg was botched. I forbid the 2 eggs she laid now. This fort will be the most insanely well defended fort EVER.

[Bartinyou]

I've added the child tag after the first egg was botched. I forbid the 2 eggs she laid now. This fort will be the most insanely well defended fort EVER.

Until your animal trainer decides to attend that awesome party in the dining hall.

[Starver]

Don't know if it applies now, and to basic training (which has been rather redone) but one of the things one could do to avoid the need to irrevocably assign a war animal to a soldier in previous versions was to ensure the war-training was done by the soldier that you right now want to be accompanied by the animal.  You then don't get (IIRC) the negative thoughts of loss of the animal, and also get the chance to officially assign them to another soldier when your plans are firmer.

However, I've not done any animal training (let alone to war/hunting specialisations) under the newer system, so I've no idea if this is the reason that the trained-from-scratch dragon is trailing the trainer 'wot done it'.  But it's the first thing that came to mind when I saw the problem.

[Eric Blank]

Alright, second time around and I've got both dragons happily trained. Well, kinda. Slusa was let out of his cage for long enough for zangu to lay her eggs, then shoved back in the cage a couple weeks later. He's repeatedly reverted toa  wild state. Zangu has had no such problems and is -trained-. The trainer is still fairly inexperienced, though.

Zangu's eggs haven't hatched yet. It's been one season.

Freaking dragon won't obey pasture orders.

[Triskelli]

Zangu's eggs haven't hatched yet. It's been one season.

I remember reading that hatching time depends on the EGG_SIZE token.  Geese have an egg size of 152, while dragons have an egg size of 6100.  If hatching time increases linearly, the you'll have to wait ~40 times as long for them to hatch.

Also, due to the "breeding by spores" dynamic, you only need to capture and tame the female Dragon to get fertilized eggs.  You can leave the male in his cavern for a little extra !!FUN!!

[Eric Blank]

I set their egg size to 10, which should take a ridiculously short time to hatch. I've pulled the plug after six months and will have her lay another clutch soon to see if fertilization was unsuccessful.

Simon's eggs hatched in one year after adding the CHILD:x tag.

[Eric Blank]

I gave Zangu another chance to breed but the eggs were infertile once again. Should the tokens that control breeding in worldgen be studied?

[simonthedwarf]

Egg size might be important - but I remember having dragons in another game through embark hacking and they would not breed at all even if you made egg size=1.

Child and baby tags did it

[imperium3]

The children will be useless for melee defense until they are 1000 years old (size 6000, only slightly larger than cats, at 5000), but will be a valuable source of prepared meals, bonecrafts, prepared meals, soap, and leather goods.  Young dragons could still be used in dragon fire emplacements, bunkered behind fortifications, with shutters in case of archers, but would overall probably be more valuable dead.

Wait, what??? You'd rather have some expensive soap and trade goods* over a defence system that can turn half the map into flame (assuming sufficiently prolific dragons and pillboxes)? That doesn't even need magma??

You are no dwarf.

*An exception is allowed if you can get a dragon bone throne via moods.