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simonthedwarf

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I got a female and a male dragon
« on: April 29, 2012, 06:59:32 pm »

On my embark. I have dug into their little hideout, but they path back to where they started after chasing a little. I got cagetraps on the exits but im struggling to find a way to make them path into it.
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Re: I got a female and a male dragon
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 07:01:38 pm »

Live bait.
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Re: I got a female and a male dragon
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 07:04:01 pm »

3 dwarfs out of 7 dead so far
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Re: I got a female and a male dragon
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 07:06:49 pm »

If they were on your site when you embarked, they will be immune to cage traps.
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Re: I got a female and a male dragon
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 07:08:21 pm »

If you could devise a way to capture the babies, you'd only have to wait a thousand years for fully grown dragons!

BTW, elf meat is a great aphrodisiac for them. Feed them regularly.

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Re: I got a female and a male dragon
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2012, 07:08:43 pm »

If they were on your site when you embarked, they will be immune to cage traps.

uh yeah they were, the whole plan with the embark was to catch a breeding pair.

is there any way to circumvent this? they have passed over wooden cage traps a few times, but i just figured this meant that they burned them somehow
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Re: I got a female and a male dragon
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 07:13:27 pm »

You'll have to get cunning, and wait till you can set up a more substantial fortress. You can circumvent their immunity to cage traps with a cave-in, or retracting bridge, but I worry they'd be too big for it to retract with them on top.

Set up a little tunnel on the other side of the walls, and carve fortifications into them so they can see through. You'll lose the stoneworker(s) that carves them, but keep a pet dog or something chained up back there behind some green glass windows and make sure they have LOS at all times with more fortifications to reinforce their goal of reaching this dog behind glass windows.

Now, they will attempt to path all the way around, hopefully, and in the process you can drop a long section of floor out from under them with a support linked to a lever, knocking them into cage traps, and hopefully capturing them.
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Re: I got a female and a male dragon
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2012, 07:22:55 pm »

I've never done this thing with linking supports to levers. Will supports automatically cause the floor above them to fall down when activated? Time for science.
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Re: I got a female and a male dragon
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2012, 07:33:40 pm »

If the floor above would have caved in without the support, they will cave in when the support is lever-pulled out of existence.

So, you either need to make the floor beneath which you build the support is then disconnected from all other floors/walls above (or at least all other floors/walls above which are not also relying on this support), or else to build a disconnected floor on the layer above (this usually involves a temporary access method in order to build that floor in the first place, which you'd then need to remove).

Does this make sense?
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Re: I got a female and a male dragon
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2012, 07:37:20 pm »

Danger! Cave-ins could kill the dragons, and you need them caught alive.

Giant cave spider webs on cage traps should work to catch these dragons, and won't hurt them.

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Re: I got a female and a male dragon
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2012, 08:28:04 pm »

If you're still working with the remnants of your original seven, it would be better just to block up the dragons' cave and wait until you have some dwarfpower to throw at the problem.
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Re: I got a female and a male dragon
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2012, 09:10:54 pm »

I have thrown 10-30 dwarfs at the problem. When I Start engraving there is going to be some horrific scenes. I think I need to show why I find this a complicated mission:

- normal cage traps dont work (they should, but like sphalerite said if they were there on ur embark like mine they dont work for some reason)
- dragons wont chase enough, but will use their breath insta-roasting any dwarfs

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Re: I got a female and a male dragon
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2012, 09:15:20 pm »

Make them equip shields. It tends to help.
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Re: I got a female and a male dragon
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2012, 11:17:14 pm »

Save please.

Danger! Cave-ins could kill the dragons, and you need them caught alive.

One z-level won't hurt them, but will stun them
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