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Tonren

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Entire map is Wagon Inaccessible?
« on: May 03, 2012, 02:19:11 am »

I used D to check if my trade depot is accessible, and the ENTIRE MAP is flashing red X's.  I'm in a cold location on a mountainside with a bunch of trees... what would make this happen??

Edit: Uhh, wait...  this is what my announcement log looks like now:

The outpost liaison Kivish Kokebineth from Udardodok has arrived.
A caravan from Udardodok has arrived.
Their wagons have bypassed your inaccessible site.
Merchants have arrived and are unloading their goods.

What?!
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Re: Entire map is Wagon Inaccessible?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 02:21:13 am »

I used D to check if my trade depot is accessible, and the ENTIRE MAP is flashing red X's.  I'm in a cold location on a mountainside with a bunch of trees... what would make this happen??

Boulders. You might have to smooth or build floors over certain surface rock tiles to make a path for the wagon.

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Re: Entire map is Wagon Inaccessible?
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 02:40:12 am »

The display shows accessibility starting from your depot, not the edge of the map. Is your depot behind some stairs maybe?
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Re: Entire map is Wagon Inaccessible?
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 02:44:54 am »

Trees would do it too, if it's really "covered" in trees.
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Re: Entire map is Wagon Inaccessible?
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 02:51:24 am »

The display shows accessibility starting from your depot, not the edge of the map. Is your depot behind some stairs maybe?
What he said. It's not that your whole map is inacessible to wagons, it's just that your depot doesn't provide a wagon-traversable path to anything. If you look at your Depot and hit 'D' you can see where the blockage is.
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Re: Entire map is Wagon Inaccessible?
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 03:01:27 am »

You need to have a 3-wide pathway from the edge of the map to your depot. Trees can block this all up. Boulders can block this all up. A good way to take care of this is some good old paved roads.
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Re: Entire map is Wagon Inaccessible?
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 04:25:26 am »

The display shows accessibility starting from your depot, not the edge of the map. Is your depot behind some stairs maybe?
What he said. It's not that your whole map is inacessible to wagons, it's just that your depot doesn't provide a wagon-traversable path to anything. If you look at your Depot and hit 'D' you can see where the blockage is.
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Re: Entire map is Wagon Inaccessible?
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 06:10:52 am »

Edit: Uhh, wait...  this is what my announcement log looks like now:

The outpost liaison Kivish Kokebineth from Udardodok has arrived.
A caravan from Udardodok has arrived.
Their wagons have bypassed your inaccessible site.
Merchants have arrived and are unloading their goods.

What?!

Merchants bring pack animals and - if applicable - wagons to carry their wares. (Elves don't use wagons)

When they arrive at your site, the game assesses if there is a clear path from the depot to the map edge - if there is, then wagons will appear along an accessible route and head for the depot, otherwise you'll only get the pack animals (and, consequently, a message about the wagons bypassing you).

Merchants can carry a lot more weight with wagons than without, which is useful if you plan on starting up a furniture export business, or want to import massive quantities of stone (eg. flux).
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Re: Entire map is Wagon Inaccessible?
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 10:44:21 am »

Stairs do not work for wagon access. Ramps do if 3 wide. Everything else people said seems good. Access if always calculated from the Depot outwards.
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Re: Entire map is Wagon Inaccessible?
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 10:58:19 am »

(Elves don't use wagons)

... Never noticed them not have any wagons before...?
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Re: Entire map is Wagon Inaccessible?
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 11:33:04 am »

(Elves don't use wagons)

... Never noticed them not have any wagons before...?

before, noone had wagons, now it's only elf caravans, wagons are in only since 34.01 again, though they were there before tooin earlier versions, I only started playing at 31.25
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Re: Entire map is Wagon Inaccessible?
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2012, 11:57:40 am »

(Elves don't use wagons)

... Never noticed them not have any wagons before...?

before, noone had wagons, now it's only elf caravans, wagons are in only since 34.01 again, though they were there before tooin earlier versions, I only started playing at 31.25

Ya, that's when I started too, I knew about the wagon bug that got fixed...

I just see wagons coming in all the time, never noticed elves coming in without wagons, that was my confusion.
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Re: Entire map is Wagon Inaccessible?
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2012, 03:44:15 pm »

Sorry guys, turns out I am a moron.  I thought I had a 3-wide entranceway, but it was 2-wide.  Just had to stare at the screen like a schmuck until I realized what was wrong.
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