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Dragonfire vs Magma-Safe materials
« on: May 11, 2012, 02:34:42 pm »

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Chert

Says Chert is a magmasafe material

But when my War Dragon fires on stuff traversing the chert bridge, it is destroyed!

This has its own use obviously, but it will have to be for special occasions.

What materials are immune to dragonfire??
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Re: Dragonfire vs Magma-Safe materials
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2012, 02:39:30 pm »

I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know that dragonfire can set trees on fire.  As I recall, even magma cannot do that.
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Re: Dragonfire vs Magma-Safe materials
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2012, 02:40:49 pm »

Dragonfire isn't magma.  Dragonfire makes less sense.    It has an absurd heat value, but can be blocked by a wooden buckler.

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Re: Dragonfire vs Magma-Safe materials
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2012, 03:10:34 pm »

If anything, slade (unminable), raw adamantine, and dolomite, will be most immune to dragonfire of the stones. Adamantine is the only metal capable of exceeding dolomite, and nether-cap is the only wood capable.
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Re: Dragonfire vs Magma-Safe materials
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2012, 03:39:59 pm »

i used to hear a lot about dragons burning themselves to death.  I think that's fixed now.  Maybe it had something to do with dragon fire being way hotter than regular fire.
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Re: Dragonfire vs Magma-Safe materials
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2012, 03:58:56 pm »

[SUPPER_IMMUNE] implies that dragonfire is indeed superfire, and can only be stopped by artifact portals constructed from Kryptonite crystals.

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Re: Dragonfire vs Magma-Safe materials
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2012, 04:08:31 pm »

[SUPPER_IMMUNE] implies that dragonfire is indeed superfire, and can only be stopped by artifact portals constructed from Kryptonite crystals.
I thought that meant you couldn't cook them.  *teasing smile*
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Re: Dragonfire vs Magma-Safe materials
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2012, 04:28:27 pm »

"It's Dolomite, baby! The tough black rock that won't cop out when heat's all about." - Professor Farnsworth

Couldn't resist.  I don't have anything of substance to add to this conversation.  Well, other than that dolomite isn't usually black.
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Re: Dragonfire vs Magma-Safe materials
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2012, 05:56:25 pm »

Back in v.31.25 dragonfire was destroying dolomite bridges just fine. I don't have a dragon in v.34 yet, but I suppose it remains unchanged. Dragonfire was also able to destroy artefacts occasionally. Just like with bridges it seemed to be luck based, so the mechanics must be different to magma damage, which is very predictable.
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Re: Dragonfire vs Magma-Safe materials
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2012, 12:04:21 am »

[SUPPER_IMMUNE] implies that dragonfire is indeed superfire, and can only be stopped by artifact portals constructed from Kryptonite crystals.
I thought that meant you couldn't cook them.  *teasing smile*
Sounds more like they were immune to the lure of snacking late at night :P
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Re: Dragonfire vs Magma-Safe materials
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2012, 02:09:25 am »

I've been able to verify with arena testing that dragonfire is around 14000 U (2222 C or 4032 F) when it hits creatures, and will melt most magma-safe materials. It only raises ground/item-on-ground temperatures to around 10600 U. Presumably buildings get the full effect since it can destroy magma-safe bridges.

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Re: Dragonfire vs Magma-Safe materials
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2012, 12:28:28 pm »

I've been able to verify with arena testing that dragonfire is around 14000 U (2222 C or 4032 F) when it hits creatures, and will melt most magma-safe materials. It only raises ground/item-on-ground temperatures to around 10600 U. Presumably buildings get the full effect since it can destroy magma-safe bridges.
Dolomite will not melt at that temperature, so it should be dragonfire-safe.
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