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[nordo]

So I've got some obsidian, and I'd like to save it for making bad-ass swords, but it keeps getting used for lame-o junk like doors.  Since obsidian is not listed in the "economic stones" list, there doesn't seem to be a way to turn off its use from that window.  Is there another way to designate the obsidian to be swords-only?

[tigger89]

No, there's no way to do that.  What I do is I build my crafts workshop well away from the mason's shop(and away from any other stone).  Then, I designate a garbage dump zone(making sure it's the only dump I have) right next to the workshop, and designate my obsidian to be dumped.  After it's all there, I remove the dump zone and unforbid every bit of obsidian.  Then I make my swords.  Most of the swords should be obsidian.

That's a lot of work, but it's the only way I've found to get it to work.

[Joseph Miles]

Toady really should implement that, as well as being able to choose the specific material for all items being made.

[Calenth]

what about the converse -- is there any way to set it so that only Obsidian is used? I have plenty of the stuff, and since it's more valuable i'd prefer all my chairs and tables etc were made with it instead of felsite or whatever.

[Wang Commander]

Couldn't you set up a bunch of garbage reactions to get each stone on the economic screen?  Like making a reaction to combine every stone together to make a plump helmet or something.

[Derakon]

To my knowledge, there's no way to specify a type of stone as an input to a reaction. There was a post in the modding forum from someone who'd made a reaction to turn ordinary stone into flux stone. The problem was that after making a single flux stone, the dwarf would just take that stone and feed it right back into the smelter to make another flux stone, because it was a valid input.

Pretty much your only way to limit reaction inputs is to lock the dwarf up with the given materials.

[Name Lips]

The most effective way seems to be to build a stockpile completely around your Mason's shop and set it to accept all kinds of stone except obsidian. This is imperfect because the Mason will happily go z-levels up and down to get stone that, to his tiny Dwarf mind, is "closer" to his shop. He will also, when he suddenly remembers "Oh crap, I have a DOOR to make!" often just grab the nearest stone to his current location, and then run off to the workshop and make a door out of it.

Also, for some bizarre reason, when dwarves are wondering exactly which stones to put in that stockpile, they do not pick stones that are already close to it. They also do not pick stones that are close to themselves. They INSIST on picking the most recently mined stones, even if those happen to be on the other side of the map past a batman-infested chasm.

Alternately, if you don't have LOTS of obsidian, you might find it's easier just to make an obsidian stockpile with a craftsdwarf's shop in the middle.

[Name Lips]

quote:Originally posted by Joseph Miles:
<STRONG>Toady really should implement that, as well as being able to choose the specific material for all items being made.</STRONG>

And which items to use to decorate which items. The same interface could be used for all of this. In fact, the interface is already there, when you get to pick what material you use to build something. We just need the exact same interface as an option - not required - for every decorating/encrusting/crafting job.

[Moronical]

This pisses me off as well. My mason wasted, like 10 precious magnetite for a damn door. Implement this now!!

[Derakon]

quote:Originally posted by Moronical:
<STRONG>This pisses me off as well. My mason wasted, like 10 precious magnetite for a damn door. Implement this now!!</STRONG>

...why were you using magnetite in its raw form, anyway? It defaults to only being usable to smelt into iron bars. You really have nobody to blame here but yourself.

[Moronical]

Whoops. never mind what i said

[zagibu]

Also, you can always lock in stuff that you don't want your dwarves to use.

[Metalax]

You could use the stone selector mod to enable you to select all stone types in the economic stone menu. You would need to gen a new world after installing it though.

[MuonDecay]

quote:Originally posted by Metalax:
<STRONG>You could use the stone selector mod to enable you to select all stone types in the economic stone menu. You would need to gen a new world after installing it though.</STRONG>

Seconded.

It's not the most streamlined way to manage stone usage, but it's better than not having a way.

And it does also effectively allow you to, for specific instances, force the use of a specific type of stone, although this requires a lot of effort on your part.