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[Teldin]

Just as a heads up, I recently wrote a fairly extensive DF modding guide currently for the DF wiki. I'd like some feedback on it if possible so I can fix it up a bit, in particular adding more wikilinks as it's fairly sparse at the moment. I also added a few examples, such as one that allows you to play a big, spider-like monster in adventurer mode without having a civ present (biting children's heads off is fun).

You can find it here: http://dwarf.lendemaindeveille.com/index.php/Modding

[Greiger]

Nice,  I didn't know how to make a race playable without giving it a civ.  Looks like it will be a good source for new people.

Might want to add that when modding creatures, that if you rename a creature ini file and generate another world it will create a duplicate creature error.  When you rename the file you have to delete the same file in data/objects as well.

It auto generates those files and doesn't delete them if they no longer exist in the raws.  And since it actually runs off of those files and not the raws, you end up with a duplicate or a creature you thought you deleted still existing next worldgen.

P.S. I'd add it myself but wikis scare me heh...

[ October 11, 2007: Message edited by: Greiger ]

[Teldin]

Interesting, I've never had that happen to me but I don't often rename old creature defs. I'll add it.

[JT]

Not bad!  I was thinking of doing the exact same thing, but didn't have the gumption to go ahead with it.

[Greiger]

I was wondering why a creature wasn't showing up (it was just extremely rare and I wasn't patient enough) so I changed the file name to something more closely resembling the vanilla naming convention.  Immediately came up with the playable Cave crocs in adventure mode that usually (for me anyway) indicates a duplicate creature.

Took me a whole two hours to get my courage up to post about it and discovered the data/objects folder while waiting for a response.  Fixed the problem just in time to waste someones time...heh.

[Karlito]

Thanks!  We've needed this for a while.

[Faces of Mu]

I would like to give thanks to the person/people who have created the tileset modding page at http://dwarf.lendemaindeveille.com/index.php/Tilesets! It gets a bit jargony in the middle, but the tile key at the end is a great reference tool!

Would like to see some of the jargon explained more, and also some recommended programs to edit tilesets in (the one I used didn't seem to grab the transparent-magenta properly).

[Turgid Bolk]

Indeed, the modding guide looks great, Teldin. Now I might give it a go myself.

Re: Tilesets, an object tileset modding tutorial would be helpful, too. I suspect such things will be put off 'til the next version, though.

[Faces of Mu]

Anyone thought about making a unit modding program that just creates the relevant text from selections you press (for cut'n'copying)?

[Teldin]

quote:Originally posted by Faces of Mu:
<STRONG>Anyone thought about making a unit modding program that just creates the relevant text from selections you press (for cut'n'copying)?</STRONG>

Oh, actually that's an excellent idea. I can actually pop out a program like that in visual basic pretty quickly. Maybe I'll do that over the weekend, if anyone's interested in it. I'd have to rewrite it for the new version more than likely, though, or at least tweak it.

[ricemastah]

The guide is definitely great! IT really address several issues that people might have when modding any files. However I noted that you said:

quote:  As a 'nuisance' race they may appear and try to steal stuff from you in fortress mode, but I have yet to see that actually happen. The nuisance token also makes them not appear as regular civilizations, which is the entire point. Arachnids are solitary and do not form civilizations.

The nuisance tag actually makes them like kobolds, and given that you also gave them mountain settlements you would find them in caves on the mountain. With SEVERAL of them in a cave.

[Alfador]

quote:Originally posted by Teldin:
<STRONG>Just as a heads up, I recently wrote a fairly extensive DF modding guide currently for the DF wiki. I'd like some feedback on it if possible so I can fix it up a bit, in particular adding more wikilinks as it's fairly sparse at the moment. I also added a few examples, such as one that allows you to play a big, spider-like monster in adventurer mode without having a civ present (biting children's heads off is fun).

You can find it here: http://dwarf.lendemaindeveille.com/index.php/Modding</STRONG>

I'd've called that race the Ilwrath. All hail Dogar and Kazon!

[Turgid Bolk]

quote:Originally posted by Alfador:
I'd've called that race the Ilwrath. All hail Dogar and Kazon!

Haha, they should sneak up on you and shoot fire. That would be a great creature set. Slaves to the Ur-Quan II?

[JT]

A lot of the more-generic Ilwrath lines would be great additions to /data/speech/threat.txt.  The ones about squeezing people into pus and gobs of gopher guts and stuff.

[Lightning4]

quote:Originally posted by Alfador:
<STRONG>

I'd've called that race the Ilwrath. All hail Dogar and Kazon!</STRONG>

Dwe, the Dill-rats, warship you!