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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1440 on: November 15, 2015, 03:41:02 am »
Quote from: FortunaDraken on November 15, 2015, 03:27:47 am
Just a quick question to know if it's possible before I attempt to do so - is there a way to make it so any Wild Animal tagged animal men (like the Anaconda Man wandering around above-ground in my current fort site) can be 'tamed' into becoming a 'citizen'? (aka still an animal but actually does stuff around the place) Or if then just as a person who hangs around without scaring the crap out of my animals? I know I can probably slap the war training tag on it to make it into a tamable war critter with the tag that let's it equip stuff, but yeah. Curious.

You can make them tame, but you cannot make them into proper citizens. Even humans and elves could not be proper citizens, as the game only accepts the ENTITY race.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1441 on: November 22, 2015, 07:31:12 am »
Is there any guide or anything on creature descriptors/appearance modifiers?

I just can't seem to get my head around how they work.
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« Reply #1442 on: November 24, 2015, 11:20:57 pm »
How do I go about making an underground sieging/trading civ? At the moment I'm just copying from Masterwork's, but I'd like to know which tags are the ones causing such a behaviour. (because regular animal men in vanilla behave much differently)
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« Reply #1443 on: November 27, 2015, 10:59:39 am »
Entity Question.  I wanted to try making a metal-less world, where you need to use rock weapons and bone armor and such, but as far as I can tell, there's no way to make caravans or siegers bring rock weapons and bone armor.  I've heard that using "generic" materials would work, like leather armor instead of cow leather armor, but I would like for there to be differences in quality, obsidian swords sharper than chert swords, rockadile bones tougher than kelenken bones, etc.  Also related, would it be possible for a civ to have access to the bones of animals it can hunt rather than domesticate?  For example, let's say rockadiles only live in rocky wasteland.  Would a civ that has sites in rocky wastelands be able to harvest rockadile bones and hide without domesticating rockadiles? 
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« Reply #1444 on: November 27, 2015, 03:47:05 pm »
As far as I know, it is impossible to make entities use bone or rock equipment, other than using a pseudo-material that is treated as a different material altogether; for example, a "bone" metal. Though that would cause weirdness with smelters and forges.

I am pretty sure that they will use the materials of creatures they can hunt, however. Caravans seem to bring the materials of creatures that aren't domesticated. Not something I have tested before though.
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« Reply #1445 on: November 28, 2015, 11:32:02 am »
I'm an absolute neophyte to df modding, and I wanted to try my hand at a creature/entity. The entity half is very-much-so human derived, as you can see, the main difference being ethics, values, a lack of sieges, and biome-start.

However, I'm having an issue finding individuals of the species in their own groups and civilizations. Tragu civs are present, I just can't find any non-human leaders. I have a fairly vague idea as to why, but I found that I'd be better off turning to the experienced.

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« Reply #1446 on: November 28, 2015, 01:47:30 pm »
First thing to know is if you have exported one of these world's data and looked at the "sites and pops" file to make sure the TRAGU have a population in the world.
If they exist and are the main population of their sites (which can be seen in that file) that is multiple potential causes out of the way.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1447 on: November 28, 2015, 02:00:40 pm »
Quote from: ArKFallen on November 28, 2015, 01:47:30 pm
First thing to know is if you have exported one of these world's data and looked at the "sites and pops" file to make sure the TRAGU have a population in the world.
If they exist and are the main population of their sites (which can be seen in that file) that is multiple potential causes out of the way.

Thanks for that: please note that I toy very little with legends, so forgive me for not knowing such a basic thing.
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« Reply #1448 on: November 28, 2015, 02:40:07 pm »
From here it could be that you haven't found the easiest way to find civilization rulers. The "World History" text file you search for the plural of your creature name for TRAGU and you search those names in Legends.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1449 on: November 28, 2015, 04:12:31 pm »
Quote from: ArKFallen on November 28, 2015, 02:40:07 pm
From here it could be that you haven't found the easiest way to find civilization rulers. The "World History" text file you search for the plural of your creature name for TRAGU and you search those names in Legends.

There are Tragi, but it appears as though they're by far the smallest population of the civ-builders. Thanks very much for the help, I'll see how I can fix that.

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« Reply #1450 on: November 28, 2015, 08:02:40 pm »
Quote from: DrunkGamer on November 22, 2015, 07:31:12 am
Is there any guide or anything on creature descriptors/appearance modifiers?

I just can't seem to get my head around how they work.
Yeah, I've only got trial and error understanding of things like changing the beard styles on my adventurers, that's why I haven't fixed the color errors and appearance errors in my .dfVic/errorlog.txt, which reminds me that Wendigo still need a horn material or something for the antlers? I couldn't see what was wrong myself.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1451 on: November 28, 2015, 09:15:54 pm »
Yet another question, what's the easiest way to modify tissue for fingers? I know 'digits' are available, but will that result in an error if my creature has no toes? Am I restricted to a BODY_DETAIL_PLAN template featuring just fingers?

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« Reply #1452 on: November 29, 2015, 02:55:47 pm »
After several attempts to raise my mini-hydras in test forts, I have never gotten a single clutch of fertile eggs from them.  I don't have any trouble hatching cave crocodiles, nor my mini-dragons.  Can anyone tell me what I'm missing that stops these things from reproducing when tamed?
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« Reply #1453 on: November 29, 2015, 03:36:05 pm »
It's hard to parse because the order is all mixed up. I don't know what creature_class:male/female is supposed to do, the [MALE] and [FEMALE] under caste define mating behavior I thought. Same with the block of creature_class tags at the top, general_poison is needed for poisoning/being sensed by vampires, and the lays eggs tag under the castes should cover that fine.
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« Reply #1454 on: November 29, 2015, 11:38:54 pm »
Are the females consistently on their nestbox while they have eggs? Did you set the eggs not to be collected for stockpiles?

Are the males capable of coming into close contact with females? Are you certain that the creatures are not afraid of commitment or are heterosexual? Animals that are unwilling to marry will not have children.

I'm not sure if the creature being able to learn would have any effects on this.
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